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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cleveland Indians Enjoy Being In Last Place by xmikex on Jul 7,2008 11:05am
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toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 7,2008 11:05am
At first I saw that Sabathia had been traded and I couldn't understand it. But after I found out he had turned down a contract extension, and remembered how terrible the Indians are this year it made a lot more sense.

It seems to me like the Brewers definitely got the better end of this deal. They didn't give up anything too amazing for the AL strikeout leader. I also kind of like this because I know Cubs fans are shitting their pants now. Wah wahhh.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jul 7,2008 11:12am
how can you trade an ace pitcher and only get one top prospect in return? shapiro should lose his job. he couldn't make a better deal than that?



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 7,2008 11:16am
Coming into the season I'd thought the Indians would be the better team in the AL because of last year. Guess I was wrong



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 7,2008 11:23am
They got Matt LaPorta (.288 with 20 homers and 66 RBIs in 84 games for Double-A Huntsville) and "others." 2 of the others are minor league pitchers with some pretty meh numbers. Either way I doubt this was the best deal they could have gotten for Sabathia.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jul 7,2008 4:00pm
I'm glad he got traded. Get him out of the AL.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 8,2008 12:00am
I really hope this results in a cheesy poster (like you used to be able to buy at MVP Sports back in the early 90s) of Prince Fielder and C.C. Sabathia dressed up at The Fat Boys.

Now all they need to do is hire John Kruk to manage the Brewers.



toggletoggle post by guy at Jul 8,2008 4:37am
just remeber cle has 2 front line starters and they need offense. and prospects could always turn into jeff bagwell cuz good hitting prospects are hard to come by



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 8,2008 5:48am
The key here is that the Brewers traded for a rental of Sabathia - he fully intends on hitting free agency. If CC's not willing to negotiate, why give up more for him? Cleveland did alright, with that being considered.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 8,2008 8:47am
BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said[orig][quote]
I really hope this results in a cheesy poster (like you used to be able to buy at MVP Sports back in the early 90s) of Prince Fielder and C.C. Sabathia dressed up at The Fat Boys.

Now all they need to do is hire John Kruk to manage the Brewers.


Don Baylor needs in on this.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 8,2008 9:10am
Sabathia and Sheets could be a very scary combo. They're both free agents at the end of the season though.

Thing is, even though Milwaukee got the better end of this deal this season, this is the type of move you make when you're sure to contend for a championship this year, and I'm not so sure the Brewers are there.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 8,2008 9:22am
I'm just pissed the Sox couldn't have offered them something. A flipping minor leaguer???



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 8,2008 10:04am
The Sox are stacked at starting pitcher as is, with Beckett, Daisuke, Lester, Buchholz, Wake, Masterson, and Colon when he comes back from the DL. I like the move to put Masterson in the pen, but they desperately need someone else for the pen, like Brian Fuentes.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 8,2008 11:07am
But putting Colon and Masterson and MAYBE Bucholz in the pen would've been great to have Sabathia here.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 8,2008 11:08am
and another thing, you can never have too much starting pitching



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 8,2008 11:12am
Bucholz sucks



toggletoggle post by lbpvd at Jul 8,2008 11:28am
SPORTS!!!



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 8,2008 11:32am
Pires said[orig][quote]
and another thing, you can never have too much starting pitching


You're right about that, but Colon in the pen wouldn't work, and you'd be wasting Buchholz. I'd rather have them go after a solid pen arm and keep everything else as is than go after another starter (and in Sabathia's case, would most likely only be here for the rest of the season) and have Buchholz not learn his proper position at the big league level in his rookie year.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 8,2008 11:33am
aril said[orig][quote]
Bucholz sucks


If you're not joking, you're crazy.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 8,2008 12:13pm
Remember when people thought Bronson Arroyo was the future of the Red Sox.

wahh wahhhhhhhh



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 8,2008 12:14pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
and another thing, you can never have too much starting pitching


You're right about that, but Colon in the pen wouldn't work, and you'd be wasting Buchholz. I'd rather have them go after a solid pen arm and keep everything else as is than go after another starter (and in Sabathia's case, would most likely only be here for the rest of the season) and have Buchholz not learn his proper position at the big league level in his rookie year.


I'd think the Sox would have a solid chance at landing him anyways. New York will offer him stupid amounts of money and he'll fail behind a horrible bullpen and aging rotation. If he was smart, come to Boston. Beckett, Matsuzaka, CC, Lester and Bucholz would scare the bejeebus at out of any team.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 8,2008 12:20pm
Wrong. Bronson Arroyo is the FUTURE OF MUSIC



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 8,2008 12:25pm
aril said[orig][quote]
Wrong. Bronson Arroyo is the FUTURE OF MUSIC




Is that Colin Farrel doing a Pearl Jam cover, or a professional athlete making an ass of himself? You be the judge.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 8,2008 12:30pm
so did the Indians GM give one of those speeches like he did last time he sold out all their talent.

i love it when teams do that shit, were focusing on the future. were not giving up we just understand we need to rebuild right now.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jul 8,2008 12:44pm
he gave doug melvin a handy



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 8,2008 1:24pm
you mean a losey



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