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returntothepit >> discuss >> Man arraigned in officer's death - Providence by RustedAngel on Apr 22,2005 11:52am
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toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Apr 22,2005 11:52am
apparently he jumped out a window near the AS220 as it says in the story...



http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_isl...arraigned_in_officers_death?pg=full

R.I. police beat up suspect, kin allege

By Jonathan Saltzman and John Ellement, Globe Staff | April 19, 2005

PROVIDENCE -- A white plastic mask obscuring his severely bruised face, Esteban Carpio, the man accused of fatally shooting a Providence detective inside police headquarters early Sunday, was arraigned yesterday on murder charges and ordered held without bail.
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Carpio, 26, was charged in Providence District Court with killing Detective James L. Allen with the officer\'s gun around 12 a.m. Sunday as the veteran officer questioned him about the stabbing of an 84-year-old woman.

Assistant Attorney General Paul Daly said in court that Carpio grabbed Allen\'s pistol in a third-story interview room, shot him twice, blew out a window with another gunshot, and jumped 60 feet to a grassy mound. He was captured after what police described as a violent struggle several blocks away, about 45 minutes later.

Carpio\'s relatives gasped when court officers led in the shackled man, his eyes red, swollen slits.

\'\'Oh, my God, look what they did to him,\" one of Carpio\'s relatives wailed, adding a vulgarity about the police officers.

Carpio\'s weeping mother, Yvonne Carpio, a teacher at Hennigan Elementary School in Jamaica Plain who lives in Roslindale, shouted, \'\'Steve, tell him not guilty,\" referring to Chief District Court Judge Albert E. DeRobbio. Esteban Carpio is called Steve by his family.

Court officers quickly grabbed several of the relatives by the arms, including Carpio\'s mother, and led them out of the courtroom as family members accused police of brutality. Carpio could be heard saying, \'\'I love you, Mom,\" but his words were muffled by the mask, which court officials said was a \'\'spit shield\" intended to protect others from blood and other fluids.

The back wall of the crowded courtroom was lined with police officers, including several detectives who glared at Carpio, a tattoo of a dragon on his left wrist.

Outside the courtroom, Carpio\'s uncle, Edward Thimas, expressed sorrow over the slaying of Allen, a 27-year veteran of the department. But Thimas said he was disgusted by the physical condition of his nephew. \'\'He\'s obviously been beaten very badly,\" Thimas said. He added that the family had tried repeatedly in recent days to get psychiatric care for Carpio, to no avail. Court documents said Carpio was a barber.

During a midafternoon news conference at police headquarters, Providence Police Chief Dean M. Esserman said Carpio was injured jumping out the window and in the struggle with law enforcement, near the AS220 art space downtown. Two State Police troopers, an FBI agent, and a Providence officer were the first to apprehend Carpio, and more police responded.

\'\'When I saw him, he was pretty cut up,\" said Esserman, who said he saw Carpio soon after his arrest. Esserman said he had no evidence that officers used excessive force, although he promised to review the matter after Allen\'s funeral, slated for Thursday.

Esserman also rebuffed questions about whether Allen had followed police procedures when he questioned Carpio alone without handcuffing him and while wearing his service pistol.

\'\'There is a time and place to look at all that happened, but that time and place is after Detective Allen is buried,\" said Esserman, who declined to provide details about the detective\'s wounds at the advice of prosecutors.

But Deputy Chief Paul Kennedy told reporters that police officers routinely interview potential suspects at the police station while wearing their pistols and without handcuffing them.

\'\'This man was not under arrest,\" Kennedy said. \'\'People aren\'t getting that.\"

Allen was interviewing Carpio about the stabbing of an elderly woman during an attempted holdup Saturday afternoon. Esserman said that he had urged Allen to pull out all the stops to find the culprit and that Allen agreed to work beyond his shift, which ended Saturday at 4 p.m., to question Carpio.

\'\'I\'m going to have to live with that,\" Esserman said.

Warwick Police Colonel Stephen McCartney, who worked with Allen when both were members of the Providence detective squad, said Allen appeared to be a victim of circumstance.

McCartney, basing his account on conversations with his former colleagues, said Allen was one of five detectives present when Carpio was being questioned. But then several left to investigate a double-shooting and another left to fetch Carpio the glass of water that he had requested. Ultimately, McCartney said, Carpio was left alone with him.

\'\'This was probably a very unique situation,\" McCartney said. \'\'Obviously, there are a lot of issues that should have raised officers\' safety antenna, but they only become red flags after the fact.\"

Carpio had been arrested several times in Rhode Island in recent years, including on two charges of domestic assault, in 2003 and 2004. Both charges were dismissed, according to court records.

Police detectives routinely find themselves in a \'\'big gray area\" like this -- between a simple interview and an actual interrogation of a suspect, said Peter Van Dyke, director of police training for Northwestern University\'s Center for Public Safety. Once you arrest and handcuff someone, he said, the cooperation ends.

Van Dyke said there is no national standard for when police officers should stow their weapon to protect themselves from someone who might try to grab it.

Allen, the 50-year-old son of a retired police captain, had worked a part-time job as a security guard at the Whole Foods Market on the city\'s East Side for the past 10 years. Allen, who had a down-to-earth manner, impressed workers with homespun stories about taking his daughters to father-daughter dances. He took the second job to pay for their private educations.

\'\'The way he talked about his girls, they were the light of his life,\" said Mary Jo Marks, the store manager.

Providence police Major Stephen Campbell said Allen\'s gentleness should not be mistaken for naïveté, cautioning against concluding that he may have been too trusting. \'\'He was a sharp detective who dealt with some of the most violent people in Rhode Island,\" Campbell said. \'\'He recognized the danger in the job.\"

Allen was the third Providence police officer killed in the line of duty since 1994. Firefighters yesterday draped the entrance of police headquarters with black bunting. Someone also erected a wooden cross, decorated with flowers, beneath the boarded-up third-story window. Glass shards still covered the grass.

\'\'Please remember this man,\" Esserman said, holding up a picture of Allen at the news conference, \'\'because we will.\"



toggletoggle post by handinjury at Apr 22,2005 11:54am
Fuck that guy.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Apr 22,2005 11:56am
Yeah fuck him. I vote for the death penalty.



toggletoggle post by Bradness at Apr 22,2005 11:59am
fuck that spic bastard. Does RI have the death penalty?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 22,2005 12:02pm
"officially" probably not...
mafia, yes.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Apr 22,2005 12:03pm
killing a cop should make it a federal case (in my opinion) and he should get the death penalty



toggletoggle post by Paulll at Apr 22,2005 12:03pm
dude providence has the worst cops. Those dudes will probably beat anyone up, lol this dude is a prime example. Although I would mostlikely have done the same thing if it was my buddy who this maniac killed



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Apr 22,2005 12:04pm
seems just to me



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Apr 22,2005 12:05pm
The guy shot a cop while being questioned for another murder he did, jumped out a window and then fought more cops when they tried to arrest him. They should have just shot him.



toggletoggle post by destroyyoualot  at Apr 22,2005 12:06pm
I dunno, stabbing and old lady and killing a cop? I'm thinking about asking him to start a band when he escapes again.



toggletoggle post by kellthevalkyrie  at Apr 22,2005 12:12pm
Super creepy on the news the picture of him...

Yesterday I couldn't go to a mortgage company I was supposed to for my job because all the streets were blocked off my the giant funeral procession. Very sad stuff.

This guy deserves the worst. That mask is so creepy. I hope he gets the death penalty.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Apr 22,2005 12:15pm



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Apr 22,2005 12:16pm
Yes, I agree, fuck that piece of shit.
In the ass.
How do you survive a 60 foot jump? grass or not, that hadda break something.
Regardless, its joy compared to how his anus will feel when thed.o.c. guys fuck him with a billy club.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Apr 22,2005 12:17pm
HAHAHA joe...sweet.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 22,2005 12:25pm
i wonder if they played Cop Killer when he entered the court room, or do you think they played Real American....hmm i wonder



toggletoggle post by Boots wtf at Apr 22,2005 12:26pm
they should kill his mother to for being a loud mouth in court



toggletoggle post by CarrotsandSticks  at Apr 22,2005 12:27pm
I heard people sying they had video of the Police beating the living shit out of him.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 22,2005 12:29pm
Boots wtf said:
they should kill his mother to for being a loud mouth in court


they should kill everyones mother, fucking breeders. spawn on your own planet.



toggletoggle post by Boots wtf at Apr 22,2005 12:36pm
whore



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Apr 22,2005 12:46pm
The thing of indeterminate gender behind him looks like the cop he killed, OMFG CONSPIRACY



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Apr 22,2005 12:47pm




In the white shirt, is that his brother or sister?



toggletoggle post by Pamela Voorhees at Apr 22,2005 4:36pm
He looks like a Spanish Jason Voorhees. I hope he don't go to space.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 22,2005 5:41pm
Pamela Voorhees said:
He looks like a Spanish Jason Voorhees. I hope he don't go to space.


actually i thought he looked like a spanish bunnie rabbit



toggletoggle post by greggdeadface at Apr 22,2005 6:04pm
i heard two f.b.i guys and three stae troopers kicked the fukn everlovin shit out of him.a girl i know sells weed to this scum fuk...
GOD BLESS



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 23,2005 10:17am
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
The thing of indeterminate gender behind him looks like the cop he killed, OMFG CONSPIRACY


Yikes.

Pamela Voorhees said:
He looks like a Spanish Jason Voorhees. I hope he don't go to space.


Seriously. "Javier X - Evil gets an upgrade. And a spoiler and ground effects."




toggletoggle post by Bradness at Apr 23,2005 10:46am
he kind of looks like Jose from Savin, huh steve?!?



toggletoggle post by Hung_to_Bleed   at Apr 23,2005 12:50pm
Good for the cops, that guy is a waste of a life. The cops shouldn't be in the business of beating the shit out of people, but here you got two guys in a room, one ends up dead. Even helel keler could solve this one. You know if they didn't beat his ass, the friggen' gangster would have walked in the court room with a crip walk proud as shit for killing a cop.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 23,2005 2:49pm
Bradness said:
he kind of looks like Jose from Savin, huh steve?!?


Yeah, it was probably him.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Apr 23,2005 8:53pm
Separate the races.



toggletoggle post by humanbonedeathmachine at Apr 23,2005 8:54pm
killing a cop should lead one to riches, girls, and good looks



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 24,2005 1:58am
infoterror said:
Separate the races.



And alphebetize them. And when you're through with that, go get me a coffee.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Apr 24,2005 9:44am



toggletoggle post by ArmageddAnne   at Apr 24,2005 11:48am
destroyyoualot said:
I dunno, stabbing and old lady and killing a cop? I'm thinking about asking him to start a band when he escapes again.


Can I be in the band too?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 24,2005 5:35pm
ArmageddAnne said:
destroyyoualot said:
I dunno, stabbing and old lady and killing a cop? I'm thinking about asking him to start a band when he escapes again.


Can I be in the band too?



Oh, definitely, we'll keep him bungee-corded to a two-wheeler like in Silence of the Lambs until we play, and then just unleash him on the crowd after shooting him full of PCP. And play lounge music with blast beats. It'll be crucial.



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