it sounded like an emo version of ihsahns new bullshit. It was 30 mins and 10 years of garbage. focus was awesome, but this release had a killer package and was completely emo and electronic bullshit. I wasted 15 dollars and I knew i should have waited but the package and the wait drew me in. I was suckered out of 15 dollars. Stay away from this release, If you want it bad enough I will give you my copy.

LOL, you paid $15 for a Cd.

I'll take your copy.

fine you could have my copy and shove it up your ass...

Should he turn that sum-bitch sideways before sticking it up his candy ass?

Or he could just listen to it.

New Cynic is good

EMO

At least you didn't get AIDS. This album clearly has it!

the new cynic is the best cd of 2008

you can say what you want about the album and i may agree either way BUT it has nothing to do with death metal whtsoever. focus did. here is the issue.

the new cynic album is very self loathing, making a thread about hating itself. :(

I find that people have a problem with it because they used to be a brutal demo, just listen to the pre-Focus demos. However, this is not the case anymore. They really haven't tried to be a death metal band again, which I do enjoy, because I feel Focus-2 would have been unnecessary.

I doubt anyone in the band would disagree with you on this. I'm pretty sure they wanted it to have nothing to death metal. Good for them.

I think after 15 years, it's hard to expect anything DM, in my opinion. In that amount of time, people change their interests so all these douchebags whining how it lacks balls and it's not DM, etc. are just ignorant.