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returntothepit >> discuss >> Your predictions and/or hopes for the future of America? by Kadoodoodoowomp on Oct 10,2008 9:27am
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toggletoggle post by Kadoodoodoowomp at Oct 10,2008 9:27am
Feel free to get as ridiculous as you want.




toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 10,2008 9:30am
to get sacked by the ostrogoths



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 10,2008 9:32am
cheaper craft beer.
left wing and right wing agendas crushed by sensible, middle of the road thinking.
political correctness disappears
economy repaired
better medical care system
an all-in-one drug that prevents pregnancy and all std's
no more remakes in the movie theater

i could probably go on, but i have not yet had enough caffiene



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 10,2008 9:33am
oh that was hopes.
predictions.....we're all fucked



toggletoggle post by timma at Oct 10,2008 9:33am
The cost to produce and operate transportation vehicles such as cars, buses, and trains will become so expensive, that the industry will implode on itself.

We will the be forced to commute via ostrich/alpaca.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 10,2008 9:48am
a boom in green jobs, demand for green engineers will go up
american imperialism will start dwindling. history doesn't lie.
the economy will stabilize, but america will be overshadowed by russia, china, and europe in world influence
the economy will stabilize, but will never get better unless america stops being a welfare state
that is if iran doesn't nuke us
oil will keep getting more expensive, but this planet will never run out of it, at least while we depend on it. it's just harder to get now.
fuck the police



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 10,2008 9:51am
number one hope for america would have to be a major increase in funding for the space program and the ability to advance the human race in science.
it would also be cool if we could potentially clone neanderthals. talk about racism.. imagine having a whole seperate race of homonoids exisiting with us at the same time.
i would ultimatelly like to take over the world with an army of cloned neanderthals, but I doubt that'd happen.



toggletoggle post by timma at Oct 10,2008 9:56am
Wow, aril, that's some LoTR Uruk-hai type shit.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Oct 10,2008 9:58am
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
cheaper craft beer.
left wing and right wing agendas crushed by sensible, middle of the road thinking.
political correctness disappears
economy repaired
better medical care system
an all-in-one drug that prevents pregnancy and all std's
no more remakes in the movie theater

i could probably go on, but i have not yet had enough caffiene


....what he said



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 10,2008 9:58am
What can I say.. I've been inspired by a few good stories.
actually, I'm trying to work out a premises for a novel I will write soon. That's not the story but it does have to do with Neanderthals..



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 10:30am
people like Max Hardcore get to run prime time television.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 10,2008 10:33am
i do believe that the space programs around the world will be the ultimate savior of humanity. the technology to colonize and terraform is not far off. probably not in my lifetime. fortunately, the government just approved heaps of funding for NASA.



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 10,2008 10:35am
the funding for NASA could be much, much more. the projects in NASA are very expensive, but the funding is just a small fraction of what we could be doing.
then again, the economy sucks right now.
I think it's kind of cool that China is about to put a man on the moon. But then again, that's China.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Oct 10,2008 10:38am
Gay sex replaces currency, we all live in a butt barter system.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Oct 10,2008 10:38am
definitely the butt barter system



toggletoggle post by markfuckingrichards  at Oct 10,2008 10:46am
Complete rock bottom depression, everyone commits suicide. Fuck it!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 10:47am
all known water turns to cheese



toggletoggle post by markfuckingrichards  at Oct 10,2008 10:57am
And we shall sail that cheese.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 10,2008 12:11pm
A plague, holocaust or an unending rain of Russian missiles to thoroughly obliterate us.



toggletoggle post by sever at Oct 10,2008 12:21pm
secession.

wold war.

yep.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 10,2008 12:21pm
It's relieving to know that mr. DEATH2ALL is so down to earth and in the know, always ready and willing to talk at great lengths about these times.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10504
FEMA sources confirm coming martial law

by Wayne Madsen

Global Research, October 9, 2008
Wayne Madsen Report

WMR has learned from knowledgeable Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) sources that the Bush administration is putting the final touches on a plan that would see martial law declared in the United States with various scenarios anticipated as triggers. The triggers include a continuing economic collapse with massive social unrest, bank closures resulting in violence against financial institutions, and another fraudulent presidential election that would result in rioting in major cities and campuses around the country.

In addition, Army Corps of Engineer sources report that the assignment of the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (BCT) to the Northern Command’s U.S. Army North is to augment FEMA and federal law enforcement in the imposition of traffic controls, crowd control, curfews, enhanced border and port security, and neighborhood patrols in the event a national emergency being declared. The BCT was assigned to duties in Iraq before being assigned to the Northern Command.

On April 3, 2008, WMR reported on a highly-classified document regarding the martial law scenario:

WMR has learned from knowledgeable sources within the US financial community that an alarming confidential and limited distribution document is circulating among senior members of Congress and their senior staff members that is warning of a bleak future for the United States if it does not quickly get its financial house in order. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is among those who have reportedly read the document.

The document is being called the "C & R" document because it reportedly states that if the United States defaults on loans and debt underwriting from China, Japan, and Russia, all of which are propping up the United States government financially, and the United States unilaterally cancels the debts, America can expect a war that will have disastrous results for the United States and the world. "Conflict" is the "C word" in the document.

The other scenario is that the federal government will be forced to drastically raise taxes in order to pay off debts to foreign countries to the point that the American people will react with a popular revolution against the government. "Revolution" is the document’s "R word.




toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 10,2008 12:34pm
Sweet- then I can begin my assassination campaign



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 10,2008 12:34pm
i don't feel that nuclear is strong possibility. it's unlikely that the order would destroy and contaminate large spaces of valuable landscape and real estate.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 12:44pm
i feel the same way. everyone knows what nuclear war will do, and i think that if a nuke was going to be set off, it would have happened already. if the US declared martial law its silly to think that the American public would just bow down and take it. sure the scenario has been presented in movies, but if it actually came down to it, not many people would be taken down without a fight.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 10,2008 12:49pm
civil unrest is inevitable. you will never be able to crush the human spirit of one who possesses the will to power.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 10,2008 1:01pm
Death to America!



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 10,2008 1:41pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
if the US declared martial law its realistic to think that the American public would just bow down and take it.


fixed for truthiness



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 10,2008 1:44pm
there's already been sightings of jailcar trains and various other things which allude to martial law.
I doubt it'd happen although judging by the way this gov't works these days, I wouldn't entirely doubt it 100%.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 10,2008 1:48pm
the only difference between our society right now and martial law is military presence.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Oct 10,2008 2:24pm
A secure future for our white children.

lol j/k

Black dicks in everyone's mouths.



toggletoggle post by master blaster at Oct 10,2008 2:26pm
This is awesome soon i'll be able to return to thunderdome...
Mad Max eat your heart out



toggletoggle post by pam   at Oct 10,2008 2:29pm
1. Obama wins
2. Universal Healthcare
3. Green power. I'd like a government that will tell rich asshole "tough shit" when they protest wind turbines.
4. Free state college before my kids are of college age (pipe dream, I know)
5. Country-wide ban on marriage discrimination. The fact that only 3 states allow gays to get married is disgusting.
6. A woman president. Someday. Preferably before I die.
7. Country-wide availability of free birth control to low-income women. Shove it down their throats if need be.

Totally backing a ban on movie remakes.

Lastly but most important, a couple more sensible people in the supreme court.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Oct 10,2008 2:29pm
master%20blaster said[orig][quote]
This is awesome soon i'll be able to return to thunderdome...
Mad Max eat your heart out


I'm hoping the Postman from the Reformed States of America will come through town bringing hope, forgotten memories and Kevin Costner.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 10,2008 2:32pm
martial law on that scale only lasts for so long. get a weapon while you still can. you don't need an intent to use it.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 10,2008 2:34pm
pam said[orig][quote]
1. Obama wins
2. Universal Healthcare
3. Green power. I'd like a government that will tell rich asshole "tough shit" when they protest wind turbines.
4. Free state college before my kids are of college age (pipe dream, I know)
5. Country-wide ban on marriage discrimination. The fact that only 3 states allow gays to get married is disgusting.
6. A woman president. Someday. Preferably before I die.
7. Country-wide availability of free birth control to low-income women. Shove it down their throats if need be.

Totally backing a ban on movie remakes.

Lastly but most important, a couple more sensible people in the supreme court.


while keeping foreign issues seperate, i can see this acually happening.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Oct 10,2008 2:35pm
I think if we took away the South's right to vote all of that could happen.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 10,2008 2:35pm
Pam.....i wouldn't hold your breath on the female president....no good female candidates have come close.

i mean if McCain wins and dies.....do you really want Palin running the country??

and Hillary is god awful, i wouldn't let her run a restaraunt



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 10,2008 2:36pm
besides....i don't care what skin color or gender the president is.
HOW ABOUT A GOOD PRESIDENT?!?!?!?!
wouldn't that fucking be nice for a change?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Oct 10,2008 2:38pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
Pam.....i wouldn't hold your breath on the female president....no good female candidates have come close.

i mean if McCain wins and dies.....do you really want Palin running the country??

and Hillary is god awful, i wouldn't let her run a restaraunt


I should have been specific...a GOOD female president.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 10,2008 2:38pm
gotcha



toggletoggle post by pam   at Oct 10,2008 2:44pm
The thought of Sarah Palin running this country is too horrible for words.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 10,2008 2:44pm
you betcha!



toggletoggle post by pam   at Oct 10,2008 2:50pm
WINK



toggletoggle post by PalinSupporterSxE at Oct 10,2008 2:52pm
you people make me sick



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 3:18pm
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
Yeti said[orig][quote]
if the US declared martial law its realistic to think that the American public would just bow down and take it.


fixed for truthiness


i don't know man, i don't believe that. we've never faced a situation where someone was banging down your door saying you have to leave. nor has there been a country like ours in a situation like that, so we really have no historical basis. i know its a far fetched belief, but i believe that in a time of absolute crisis, none of which we have ever seen before save the early times of the US, people would defend themselves violently. we grossly outnumber any sort of military presence, and the second gunfire erupted, there would be an all out war of government vs. the people, and i strongly believe the government would lose horribly. Americans may be dumbasses, but we are different from anyone else in that regard. i just can't believe that any person living in America would just allow themselves to be policed in that manner. i know that a police state is pretty much what we live in, but its not violently forceful in the sense of martial law.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 10,2008 3:21pm
the reason why i say that is because americans would be told "it was for the good of the nation" and that it was "for our protection" etc. etc. etc.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 3:23pm
i definitely don't disagree with that, but even when told that, the dumbest of the dumb can see through it. sure there will be people that follow it, but how many people right now are pretty much on the verge of revolting because of how things are going, never mind if that arose.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 10,2008 3:28pm
i wish you could watch that mccain-palin mob thing at work

ee gad.

that's at least half of the population summed up, and they would not only allow martial law, they would pave the road towards it and give up their money to fund it.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 10,2008 3:31pm
maybe i'll stay blissfully ignorant on this one haha.



toggletoggle post by contagion   at Oct 10,2008 3:58pm
zombie holocaust



toggletoggle post by DEATH FIEND sli sli sli at Oct 10,2008 8:30pm
i hope all the people in that McCain/Palin Mob video have children that turn out gay



toggletoggle post by Mess at Oct 10,2008 8:31pm
A-Bombs for us all!
of course
plz



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Oct 10,2008 8:43pm
pam said[orig][quote]
I think if we took away the South's right to vote all of that could happen.


Except for Chapel Hill, it's very blue here. Durham is fairly blue too.

It's not just the south though, you should probably include most of the midwest too.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 11,2008 12:12pm
aril said[orig][quote]
the funding for NASA could be much, much more. the projects in NASA are very expensive, but the funding is just a small fraction of what we could be doing.


NASA and military r&d have brought us half at least of our technology.

I have other reasons to support both (they're just cool) but that's enough for us out there.

My hopes:

1. End to welfare state.
2. End to anti-discrimination legislation.
3. Everyone under 115 IQ --> Africa.
4. Tax mass media.
5. Invade Canada.
6. Legal weed.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 15,2008 9:31am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]

1. End to welfare state.
2. End to anti-discrimination legislation.
3. Everyone under 115 IQ --> Africa.
4. Tax mass media.
5. Invade Canada.
6. Legal weed.


1.agreed
2.agreed
3.hahahaha!!!! amazing
4.100 percent backed
5.BLAME CANADA!
6.i agree, but mainly for the tax purposes....legalizing and taxing herb (the same way they do booze and tobacco) would be a big economic help



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 10:41am
The drug war is a giant failure. We have to admit that people are working against their government and it's causing a police state to easily rise. It makes more sense to decriminalize it in certain areas, and to require welfare recipients on drugs to go there. Natural selection takes care of the problem.

I would argue that legalizing and taxing isn't the goal. The real goal is to get drugs as cheap as possible so that the people on drugs do not commit crimes to support their habits. If heroin cost them $2 a day, we could shovel them into hovels for $5 a day of total cost and let them smack out and die, with the 2% who always manage to kick coming back to reality.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 15,2008 12:35pm
this may be my first time disagreeing with you sir, but i do strongly believe that legalizing and taxing weed (as well prostitution) would be a huge help (economically).

as far as welafre recipients....if you can afford drugs (be they legal, or illegal) then you do not need ANY support/assistance....no welfare, no food stamps, no free medical care. period.

on the other hand, i suppose i can see you point about making hard drugs cheap so parasites die out



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 12:37pm
Legalization in many ways is government endorsement of the behavior. Decriminalization is saying KMAGYOYO: kiss my ass goodbye, you're on your own.

Agreed on welfare. I'd replace the welfare state with job insurance.

Cheap drugs, no age limit. If parents are going to be derelict, we don't want those genes in the population.

Interesting that you bring up prostitution. I've always thought Europe had a sensible attitude toward it: legalize and regulate so diseases don't spread.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Oct 15,2008 12:41pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
Legalization in many ways is government endorsement of the behavior. Decriminalization is saying KMAGYOYO: kiss my ass goodbye, you're on your own.

Agreed on welfare. I'd replace the welfare state with job insurance.

Cheap drugs, no age limit. If parents are going to be derelict, we don't want those genes in the population.

Interesting that you bring up prostitution. I've always thought Europe had a sensible attitude toward it: legalize and regulate so diseases don't spread.


i suppose the more i look at your side of it, the more it makes sense.... i just think i am arguing from an economic standpoint because i am sick of watching the value of the dollar become similar to the value of used toilet paper.

i am definately with you on the European attitude on prostitution.
safe, clean, legal, taxed.....creates jobs, stimulates economy, keeps young girls off the street, and sexually deprived/desperate men out of jail



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 12:46pm edited Oct 15,2008 12:47pm
The genius of the Confederacy was that it allowed different states to have different rules.

So if one state wanted to decriminalize weed and legalize prostitution, another wouldn't have to. And because neither state is obligated to save the other if it goes bankrupt, we rapidly see which approach is more realistic.

If you ask me, the threat to the dollar is a subtle one -- we no longer make much of anything here in the USA. Our agriculture and manufacturing sectors are minimal, but in entertainment and moving money around through paper finance, we're strong.

But those industries are ephemeral, and so not a good basis for a long term plan. Diversified industry is best. We see it here in Houston -- when the energy firms take a dump, the city is a ruin for a decade, and otherwise, it's boomtown.



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