this should be the world headline right now, if this esculates russia will control oil flows to europe and the u.s.... People don't realize it but georgia is vital to the flow of oil in the middle east.
i can only imagine when half of america reads of this they will respond "oh my god russia invaded the south!"
it's sad that i have to look for videos of this on youtube because there is nothing more than a ticker on one new channel out of the twenty i have. I want to see some russian fire fighting.
hmm...until now i thought this was the island georgia off of south america. weird.
it's a former russian satellite linking the middle east with russia. it borders turkey, azerbaijan, and russia.
I think this was timed perfectly with the olympics...whole world is busy watching them to care for a conflict that is very similar to the start of ww2.
aka when Germany rolled into neighboring countries to "reunite" germans.
If I am correct, south ossetia (in the north of georgia) used to be part of russia til very recently, in fact north ossetia is in russia.
post by SacreligioNLI at Aug 8,2008 5:36pm
well good for them. i don't care until GWB says "we must go to war with russia," at which point i would care.
post by The true CNV at Aug 8,2008 5:50pm
Sneaky fucking russians... All those hard years in the cold commie eastern block has turned those people into the most ruthless, cunning and treacherous motherfuckers you would ever run into. All of them know how to fight to kill too.... The USA could be in some deep shit.
Sneaky fucking russians... All those hard years in the cold commie eastern block has turned those people into the most ruthless, cunning and treacherous motherfuckers you would ever run into. All of them know how to fight to kill too.... The USA could be in some deep shit.
have you ever been to russia?
post by dftg at Aug 8,2008 7:22pm
yeah, have you ever tried to fight a heroin addict? They may be scary, but not because they're physically intimidating.
yeah, have you ever tried to fight a heroin addict? They may be scary, but not because they're physically intimidating.
no offense, i'm not russia supporter, but here they honestly don't give a flying fuck about the US, much less squashing it. don't be so afraid, if anything, they eat up american culture like there's no tomorrow.
but it's too late, there's no way we can win against the east, ie against a russian, chinese, iranian coalition.
Or Russia, China and India
post by aril at Aug 9,2008 12:17pm
I think WWIII is bound to happen sometime. There's too unstable environments in our world today. WWIII would happen out of a chain of events; for example, if the US decides to join in a small skirmish like this one, and someone decides to attack us, we'll have to intervene some more. And then other countries would, and then other ones, and so on.
That's why the whole presence of Israel is creating so much drama in the Middle East. Just about every country down there does not want Israel there - but Israel has a strong alliance with the US and some European countries so it's kind of a tug of war.
The tension is boiling again, I'm just waiting for the pot to explode.
This is fucking amazing, ww3 unfolding as we fucking speak.
rise of russia
the us and eu swoop in
but it's too late, there's no way we can win against the east, ie against a russian, chinese, iranian coalition.
because just like in ww2...it will just be our boys and some canadians if we're lucky
wow, someone is ignorant on their wwII history. How about Britain, Austrailia, Poland, Greece, Canada, France, even a post-Mussolini Italy.
No way we can win?
I beg to differ, its called anti-matter bombs....look it up. Noob.
hhaha out of those countries...maybe britian was useful.
Russia however, was better at the war in europe then we were. Everyone underestimates the role russia played in crushing the german offensive. no disrespect to the ww2 vets, but about 80 percent of the germans were fighting russia. we were just taking out the skeleton of an army that was left in the west.
I guess kazakhstan is saying they're going to back russia and send troops if needed.
yeah minor skirmish my ass.
post by aril at Aug 9,2008 4:49pm
If China ever steps into any war with the US, I'm afraid we may not stand a chance.
We do have many different types of destructive bombs, but as I learned in college, a lot of them are politically motivated (ie "We're America. We have this. Don't fuck with us.")
We all know that if ANY country drops large scale destructive bombs in any other sovereign nation in the world, it will result in an all out war. Bombs represent power and technology, but to actually use them will require some serious balls, as its impact will be unforgettable and deemed immoral. If you had to push the button to drop an anti-matter bomb on a nation, would you?
If you had to push the button to drop an anti-matter bomb on a nation, would you?
Old tech: bombs:
New tech: autonomous micro-drones.
In the time it took you to be outraged at this reply, one of your political enemies pressed a switch on his console. The cicada on the tree outside your window flew right inside the house. You had one brief moment to be amused before you realized the "cicada" was actually an ultralight housing for a caseless .45 round. The next day they found you with a hole in your forehead and brain chips on the wall.
post by aril at Aug 10,2008 1:06pm
haha. Cicada bullet. nice.
I think that the most popular term for bombs these days are "weapons of mass destruction." Frankly, I'm more terrified on biological warfare. Such weapons exist today that could destroy an entire nation in no time; the question is whether or not it will have an affect on world affairs. Of course it fucking will. Any country (no matter who it'll be ... terrorists are more likley) who participates on destruction in a large scale will have to be retaliated against. That's just how it works. The fact that the US has numerous weapons which are capable of destroying humanity is scary, only in the sense that if we ever decide to use them again, I've got a feeling the rest of the world won't like it.
post by goatcatalystnli at Aug 10,2008 1:53pm
I hope nuclear armageddon comes before the Carcass show so you all die unhappy.
you know those dusties have some nefarious shit they're stuffing their bombs with! i wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of partial (further?) zombification of those left undead.
If China ever steps into any war with the US, I'm afraid we may not stand a chance.
We do have many different types of destructive bombs, but as I learned in college, a lot of them are politically motivated (ie "We're America. We have this. Don't fuck with us.")
We all know that if ANY country drops large scale destructive bombs in any other sovereign nation in the world, it will result in an all out war. Bombs represent power and technology, but to actually use them will require some serious balls, as its impact will be unforgettable and deemed immoral. If you had to push the button to drop an anti-matter bomb on a nation, would you?
China can barely keep tabs on its own population. They use outdated Russian weaponry and are only well trained enough to wage an effective war in their homeland. The only thing they have going for them is having 1/6 of the worlds population.
We saw what our Abrams are capable of doing to T-72s in Iraq. We have the new Raptor warplane which is the most sophisticated and deadly fighter/bomber in the world. We spend an outrageous amount of our GDP on our military.
If we ever went to war with China, we would step all over them.
One interesting thing I found out about the Chinese military. There was a news report about how a ton of Chinese troops who responded to the earthquake doing humanitarian and rescue work suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. They have VERY few if any veterans left in the military and almost no combat experence at all, stretching back a few decades. Plus, they've been trying to change their officer and NCO systems because the Soviet based one was crap and it still suffers from a large gap.
They have jumped greatly in technology and upgrades, but they are still lacking behind us and have a number of weapons that have a higher rate of failure vs success. They are really trying to push the grown of their navy because they are still a defensive based military. They can't move themselves very far in large numbers for a big operation. Even an invasion of Taiwan would be a MASSIVE undertaking for the Chinese military.
We shouldn't sit on our hands, but at the moment China would have a numbers advantage, but that's about it.
post by aril at Aug 11,2008 10:49am
I honestly think China will be VERY powerful within the next 10-20 years. It would be a good fight, but if say Russia + China vs US? That would be a hard fought battle. Anyone ready to get drafted?
Asian land war = a surplus of dumb people charging at you with weapons.
post by DYA / NLI at Aug 11,2008 1:16pm
LOL @ "Gerogia." Sounds like a Holladaddy victim.
post by aril at Aug 11,2008 1:44pm
TBILISI, Georgia -- Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia on Monday, sending armored vehicles beyond two breakaway provinces and seizing a military base and police stations in the country's west, the Georgian government and a Russian official said.
The new forays into Georgia -- even as Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili on signed a cease-fire pledge -- appeared to show Russian determination to subdue the small, U.S.-backed country, which has been pressing for NATO membership.
once a nuke is fired, it's all over. all of these words that I type to you right now will be gone. also a lot of us all will be gone.
If there are anymore wars, there will be a draft. if we go to war with iran, they will have to either nuke them or start up a draft. when going to war with china, it's a numbers game. China's defense is purely numbers. in all conflicts they just push out canon fodder in the form of human bodies. Throw 200,000 over vietnam and suffer 69,000 kia and it's nothing to china.
China's defense is purely numbers. in all conflicts they just push out canon fodder in the form of human bodies. Throw 200,000 over vietnam and suffer 69,000 kia and it's nothing to china.
It's pretty effective. Just as in Viet Nam, we will kill many of them and yet they will still keep coming.
I would also not underrate China's technology. This stuff isn't that hard to produce, and they've now got a lot of engineers.
Look for Caucasians vs Mongols II: Two Enter, One Leave coming soon.
post by aril at Aug 11,2008 4:40pm
I remember seeing something on the History channel or whatever that stated China's technology is actually only about 5 years behind ours now (known technology, that is.)
Ahhh, we have the F22 Raptor though. That plane is sick.
this is a lot worse than what the US media is covering. And according to this, russia is the good guy. I'm not surprised. U.S. is just fighting a proxy war with russia by using our cannon fodder allies
this is a lot worse than what the US media is covering. And according to this, russia is the good guy. I'm not surprised. U.S. is just fighting a proxy war with russia by using our cannon fodder allies
Right, because Russian state media is the most reliable source of information in the world. It's not like they put hits out on independent journalists and media on a regular basis.
Yeah that was awesome how they had their tanks heading for the capital, stopped, waited and hour, and turned back.
I would have loved to be in that capitol seeing people shit themselves out of fear that russia was going to roll in.
All NPR is talking about is this war. And they are saying scary shit, how if georgia had been part of nato this would have been ww1 all over again. how two random countries have a war which trips automatic alliances.
honestly this is still not over, we walked down a path to something akin to global war. Russia's just going to do this again if we don't do something to punish them, poland is bitching at the EU for not threating sanctions.
It's unfortunate that no one in east europe can do anything, russia has threatened to turn off the power and leave them in the cold (they supply all of the energy to eastern europe and 50 percent of the energy to germany)
post by y_ddraig_goch at Aug 14,2008 8:46am edited Aug 14,2008 8:47am
here we go, "Russia says 'georgia can forget about national integrity'"
Apparently last night russia bombed gori, and is moving more troops into the places it was supposed to withdraw out of
I just read that Russian tanks are assisting withdrawal of their troops in the city of Gori.
Russia is putting the pressure on the US though, to "pick" between them as allies or Georgia.
I think this put a huge dent in our 'relationship' with Russia. They're a major threat to the stability of Europe again.
I just read that Russian tanks are assisting withdrawal of their troops in the city of Gori.
Russia is putting the pressure on the US though, to "pick" between them as allies or Georgia.
I think this put a huge dent in our 'relationship' with Russia. They're a major threat to the stability of Europe again.
I think we started it with wanting to put missile defense systems in poland, Honesly I think we knew something was going down with russia in the future, we're too late now, better get those defense systems in there if we want to save europe.
'After the Russian entry into Gori, a column of approximately 100 Russian vehicles rumbled down the highway toward Tbilisi, setting off a new round of alarms among Georgians that the Russians planned to seize it. Soldiers in the convoy waved at reporters and shouted jokingly that they were headed for Tbilisi, before turning north off the road and setting up an encampment and series of checkpoints. Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers continued to move around the area Wednesday night."
apparently on Friday Russia said they might pull out if everything is calm
post by aril at Aug 14,2008 9:11am
that would cause even more chaos if we put that missile system up.
remember a year or two ago when russia poisoned that British spy? that was messed up
post by aril at Aug 14,2008 9:12am
it took them one week to destroy a good portion of that country. and I bet they barely used that much of their military. just how strong is their military these days?
it took them one week to destroy a good portion of that country. and I bet they barely used that much of their military. just how strong is their military these days?
I'd say they are strong enough to invade neighboring countries, doubt they have the power to invade a western country
post by aril at Aug 15,2008 9:55am
Okay, so we warned Russia today of "bullying" and how it's not proper in 21st century politics. Obviously, that's a threat, which in turn, is the same thing which we're warning them against. Hypocritical move, President Bush.
And now Poland and the US have agreed to building that missile defense system in Poland, which Russia has strongly objected against in the past. We've claimed that the system is for Mideast Missile threats. Yea, okay. It's for an impending WWIII against the East.
WWIII will be the West vs. the East. It's fucking coming, and I hope everyone else can feel it, too.
post by aril at Aug 15,2008 9:57am
So, with that being said, let's have some more War Metal bands.
This is going to be an intense 10 years.
[Aug 14,2008 8:54am - aril]
I just read that Russian tanks are assisting withdrawal of their troops in the city of Gori.
Russia is putting the pressure on the US though, to "pick" between them as allies or Georgia.
I think this put a huge dent in our 'relationship' with Russia. They're a major threat to the stability of Europe again.
our ally is georgia, not russia in this situation.
post by aril at Aug 15,2008 10:23am
Yea, I know. But we've been trying to build a 'relationship' with Russia since the Cold War has ended but it's pretty much going no where. There's still tension, always has been.
