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returntothepit >> discuss >> 10 smartest and 10 dumbest dog breeds by the_reverend on Apr 11,2008 9:43am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 9:43am
http://wbztv.com/slideshows/smartest.dogs.breeds.20.695791.html
some dogs don't just look retarded, they are retarded.



toggletoggle post by SapremiaNJ  at Apr 11,2008 9:50am
I already disagree with this list. Maybe i just have a super beagle!



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Apr 11,2008 9:53am edited Apr 11,2008 9:53am
Actually they missed one, as far as smart dogs. The Pitbull (American pitbull terrier) or the American Staffidshire Terrier ( a mix of a pit and a bull mastiff, basically an 85lb. pitbull) are often forgotten because of their stigma, but ARE in fact one of the smartest dogs.
Along with being the only dog that smiles when it is happy. I know I own 3



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at the library at Apr 11,2008 9:55am
I grew up with a Scottish Terrier who was a frickin' GENIUS.

I miss Sandy, I think about her every day.
Sparky was awesome too.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 10:09am edited Apr 11,2008 10:11am
all dogs can be smart or dumb. A lot of the pure breed dogs are getting stupider (re: goldens and chocolate labs) cause of inbreeding. Mutts are the only way that we are going to get/keep smart dogs.

As for #1: border collie that's pretty true. they aren't smart in the same way that poodles are. they are smart in that it's bred into them to follow orders. out of the box, they will herd sheep for you and listen to sheep herding commands even if they have never heard them before. my dad has one. his gets all excited, rolls on her back and pee archs in the air... then when you step back, she jumps up and whips you with her pee-soaked tail.

but #whatever: the sheltie are basically border collies. they are bred to follow instructions for dog shows. amazing stuff. they are also genetically programmed to pee on my leg.

#2: poodles. they are smart in a creepy way where you know that there is just something more going on in there. and then you turn your back on them and they start picking locks and writing up email-scams. their english isn't perfect... but it gets grannies to send them cash.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at the library at Apr 11,2008 10:14am



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 11,2008 10:16am
My father had an irish setter (who most people say are an unintelligent breed) that he raised from a puppy, and he had a million stories about how smart that dog was.

Years later my parents got another irish setter who is.... although I love him to death... a big dumb oaf.



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Apr 11,2008 10:17am

Kain and P.I.T.A

P.I.T.A, smiling.

Diamond.
Both Diamond and P.I.T.A were rescues.



toggletoggle post by ZenErik   at Apr 11,2008 10:19am
I like PITA. Looks like cookies and cream.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 11,2008 10:20am
Goldens may rank smarter than Labs, but (except for some instances) Goldens are pussies. My Labs will launch willingly into icy water to retrieve a bird -- Goldens are afraid to get their pretty fur wet.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at the library at Apr 11,2008 10:21am
both doggies are adorable.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 11,2008 10:24am
Those are some handsome dogs.



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Apr 11,2008 10:26am
Actually there are 3. Kain is at the top with PITA as a puppy and Diamond is at the bottom. The are both brindle and look alot alike accept when in person. Kain has about 30morelbs then diamond.
And as for the little Pain In The Ass she is part pit and part Australian cattle dog. The little shit thinks everyday is circus day. Sits on the back of my recliner, like a cat. Can jump from a stand still to just about over my head. She's nuts. But then again she is still a puppy.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 11,2008 10:32am
all dogs go to heaven.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 10:32am
Andy: look at a red golden if you want a non-pussy. a lot of the yellow goldens are pussy show dogs. I assure you that my goldens would have kept up with a lab since my dad uses them to hunt ducks. red goldens = hunters, yellow goldens = show.
the only thing is that labs fur is shorter/better for water since its short.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 10:34am
rob: you kept their ears which make them look soo much better. dobbies, boxers, and pitbulls unlike dicks look so much better uncut.



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toggletoggle post by ariavette at Apr 11,2008 10:41am
damnit



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toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Apr 11,2008 10:49am
My Toy Fox Terrorist, Basil Veadtuck Adams, is brilliant yet rude as all heck... and very portable. Beautiful hounds, Rob.



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Apr 11,2008 10:52am
Yea I hate pit's with there ears cut, another part of there stigma. They only did that because of fighting, so the other dogs don't have something to grab. Now most of the fucking stupid asses do that to make them look more intimidating. plus it's fucking crewl.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 10:58am
labradoodle death from above!







toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 11:00am
my brother's dogs



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Apr 11,2008 11:00am
I'm gonna make me a terrifying golem out of discarded foreskins and cropped puppy-dog ears n tails.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 11:02am
truth salom



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 11:08am
my dad's border collie


my dad's merema

my dad's black lab mix (he had some sort of stroke so one side of his face was droopy and then shrank, but came back)




toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Apr 11,2008 11:25am
thar be no dog dumber than my mom's cairn terrier.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 11,2008 11:56am
Yeti said[orig][quote]


yes! sharky the shark dog is my hero



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 11,2008 12:45pm
GoatCatalyst said[orig][quote]
I'm gonna make me a terrifying golem out of discarded foreskins and cropped puppy-dog ears n tails.


but a greyhound for a tuxedo would be best.

so lets prepare these dogs,

kill 2 for matching clogs!

see my vest, see my vest, see myyy veeest.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 12:48pm
see my loafers? former gophers.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Apr 11,2008 12:58pm
i want a molosser...




toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 11,2008 1:02pm


this is my kind of dog.



toggletoggle post by Godlessrob at Apr 11,2008 1:04pm
Holy shit that thing looks like it's on fucking 'roids. little fucker looks like he could pull my truck!
looks like a cross between a bulldog/rotty/pit.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Apr 11,2008 1:10pm
yep check moloss world and shit. very cool stuff.

ill take a moloss or a sick brindle pit...maybe a malamute if it wasnt for all that damn hair.



toggletoggle post by Godlessrob at Apr 11,2008 1:12pm
You'll get to meet my brindle pits in a week and a half! Though you can't take 'em home with you.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Apr 11,2008 1:14pm
i will grab one at the end of the summer i have a good breeder in mind...gonna name 'em zappa.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Apr 11,2008 1:33pm
Bassett hounds arent so much dumb as they are lazy. they just dont care.

Corgis were missing from their list. they are really good herding dogs and usually are very smart.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 1:38pm
there is a difference between "good" and "the best". this is a "the best" list... not honorable mention time.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 1:40pm
a story about a dog ass-leaking all over a car:
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212883



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Apr 11,2008 1:42pm
im just biased about Corgis as they are the cutest dogs ever. im so gonna have one and let it perch on my shoulder and carry it everywhere =^_^=



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 1:43pm
KeKeKeKeKeKeKeKe



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 11,2008 1:44pm
wait, I've seen that movie before.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Apr 11,2008 1:44pm edited Apr 11,2008 1:46pm
my german shepherd is indeed the shit. the dachshund is awesome, too, but he's kind of neurotic. he does know how to get what he wants, though.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Apr 11,2008 1:46pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
wait, I've seen that movie before.



hahaha.



kekeke indeed.


Corg rush!



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toggletoggle post by Granny_Monster at Apr 11,2008 3:19pm
thegreatspaldino said[orig][quote]
im just biased about Corgis as they are the cutest dogs ever. im so gonna have one and let it perch on my shoulder and carry it everywhere =^_^=


I want 85 Pembroke Welsh Corgis. Fucking most adorable dogs ever.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 11,2008 3:20pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
looks like a motorhead album cover



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Apr 11,2008 3:22pm
mortalis said[orig][quote]
my german shepherd is indeed the shit. the dachshund is awesome, too, but he's kind of neurotic. he does know how to get what he wants, though.


my friends boyfriend has a german sheperd that I want so bad, such an awesome dog, very smart, very well trained fun to play with



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 11,2008 5:26pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
Andy: look at a red golden if you want a non-pussy. a lot of the yellow goldens are pussy show dogs. I assure you that my goldens would have kept up with a lab since my dad uses them to hunt ducks. red goldens = hunters, yellow goldens = show.
the only thing is that labs fur is shorter/better for water since its short.


I said there are exceptions -- there's a guy that runs 2 goldens at one of the hunt clubs I retrieve at and his dogs both have their Master Hunter certificates and handle very well. I have 2 British yellow labs, so I am not looking for any more dogs -- my hands are full with training these 2! I like labs -- they are kind of like the 4WD version of a dog.

Sounds like your dad and I should hang out this fall.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Apr 11,2008 5:31pm
i have a brit golden and a two weimaraners. the weimars are unreal in the woods, excellent speed, and agility-- but i have never seen an animal swim like my brit golden..shit will fucking dive bomb off rocks to retrieve waay out.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Apr 11,2008 6:15pm
ariavette said[orig][quote]
mortalis said[orig][quote]
my german shepherd is indeed the shit. the dachshund is awesome, too, but he's kind of neurotic. he does know how to get what he wants, though.


my friends boyfriend has a german sheperd that I want so bad, such an awesome dog, very smart, very well trained fun to play with


yeah ours is pretty much ideal. she even gets along great with the kittens.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Apr 12,2008 11:24am
Labs



toggletoggle post by Griffgasm6000 at Apr 12,2008 11:33am
thegreatspaldino said[orig][quote]
im just biased about Corgis as they are the cutest dogs ever. im so gonna have one and let it perch on my shoulder and carry it everywhere =^_^=


Yep, corgie's are dominant. Here's my little buddy.





toggletoggle post by Griffgasm6000 at Apr 12,2008 11:34am
Griffgasm6000 said[orig][quote]
thegreatspaldino said[orig][quote]
im just biased about Corgis as they are the cutest dogs ever. im so gonna have one and let it perch on my shoulder and carry it everywhere =^_^=


Yep, corgies are dominant. Here's my little buddy.





toggletoggle post by Griffgasm6000 at Apr 12,2008 11:35am
whoops...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 12,2008 11:41am
whoop whoop



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Apr 12,2008 11:41am
there is a tri-color corgi puppy at the pet store in newtonville and its the cutest tri-color i have ever seen. off the wall cuteness!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 12,2008 11:50am



toggletoggle post by Griffgasm6000 at Apr 12,2008 11:52am
Yeah, my dog Otis was shipped in from Wichita, KS. He's the runt-o-the-litter, so he's half the size of a regular corgi.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 12,2008 12:10pm
Fuck that.. My parent's have a Mastiff and he's not dumb. He's pretty smart.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Apr 12,2008 12:12pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]



YES... thats an awesome picture. so adorable.



toggletoggle post by punk potenza at Apr 12,2008 12:23pm
i got a puggle back in november cute as fuck, and not dumb persay but can be stubborn and a total kiss machine. i hate golden retrivers every one i have met is fuckin psycho. and pitbulls are the best love em to death!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 14,2008 8:54am



toggletoggle post by Nobody Cares at Apr 14,2008 7:49pm
Haha. Thanks rev, those are my dogs. Winnie (left) was adopted from NC, she's a supposed corgi mix, but we are skeptical. And Toby (right) is the real deal, Pembroke Welsh. I have delusions they are my children, since I never plan on breeding humans. She is 1 and a half, and he will be 5 this year. I was suprised corgis weren't on the smartest breeds. Toby is extremely attentive and understands lots of words. He has a true smile also. Your labradoodle gave me new respect for them, its a best of both worlds type mix. Your brother's doberman was impressive, its such a good thing to adopt and or rescue than to support puppy mills in any way.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 14,2008 7:57pm
yo, email me and I'll send you a lot more pictures.



toggletoggle post by Nobody Cares at Apr 14,2008 8:05pm
Haha. Thanks rev, those are my dogs. Winnie (left) was adopted from NC, she's a supposed corgi mix, but we are skeptical. And Toby (right) is the real deal, Pembroke Welsh. I have delusions they are my children, since I never plan on breeding humans. She is 1 and a half, and he will be 5 this year. I was suprised corgis weren't on the smartest breeds. Toby is extremely attentive and understands lots of words. He has a true smile also. Your labradoodle gave me new respect for them, its a best of both worlds type mix. Your brother's doberman was impressive, its such a good thing to adopt and or rescue than to support puppy mills in any way.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 14,2008 9:35pm
like I said right above this, email me and I will send you some more pictures
I took like a lot that day.



toggletoggle post by diarrhea_blumpkin at Apr 14,2008 9:38pm
i miss my dog, near the end he rocked a doggie wheelchair so hard



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 14,2008 10:25pm
yeah, we took my brother's dog to see the other dog and family that had to give her away.




toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Apr 15,2008 8:12am
Sorry for the double reply, never posted with the sidekick before. I will hit you up. I also like to exploit my dogs for album artwork and myspace pics, example here:



and here

My music



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