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returntothepit >> discuss >> ROLL CALL.....GRINDCORE HOLOCAUST 6/1 @ REDRUM..OLNEYVILLE-PROVIDENCE R.I. by chrisabomb on May 31,2006 5:18pm
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toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at May 31,2006 5:18pm edited May 31,2006 5:19pm
THURSDAY JUNE 1ST @ REDRUM-OLNEYVILLE- PROVIDENCE R.I.

DEGENERATE BOOKING PRESENTS..

A GRINDCORE HOLOCAUST
----------------------

MAGRUDERGRIND
UNHOLY GRAVE(FROM JAPAN)
YACOPSAE(FROM GERMANY)
SANITYS DAWN(FROM GERMANY)
I DESTROYER
THROWING SHRAPNEL


ALL AGES, 8:00PM SHOW, $8.00, FOR INFO. OR DIRECTIONS CONTACT CHRISXXXRI69@AOL.COM OR BLASPHEMYBOB@YAHOO.COM



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at May 31,2006 5:21pm
check



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at May 31,2006 5:24pm
hey im gonna be there



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at May 31,2006 5:35pm
I'll be there, but how many fucking threads do we need about this show? This is ridiculous.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at May 31,2006 5:36pm
for the record, i didnt start any of them, haha



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at May 31,2006 6:30pm
Old Cemetery Chris will be there.



toggletoggle post by clamballsnli at May 31,2006 11:46pm
WOW..first Ive heard of this show...



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at May 31,2006 11:50pm
clamballsnli said:
WOW..first Ive heard of this show...


where have you been this show has been posted all over the internet for at leat 2 months if not more & flyered very well at lots of shows. you're out of the loop. anyways see you there...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 1,2006 12:31am
I'm there.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 1,2006 2:24am
HAVE FUN, I'll be at Ralph's in Worcester seeing DOWNFALL, GOREALITY, ZIRCON and GODLESS RISING.

Wish I could be in 2 places at once.



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Jun 1,2006 9:51am
tonight......see you there!!!



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jun 1,2006 3:53pm
^



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 1,2006 11:02pm
I'm using this as "the" thread for the show.
first off, the redrum rules. granted it's 200 degrees in here, but this place is really chill, you can fall right out the window, it's big, there is crazy art crap every where, and it's got the barest of rules.

throwing shrapnel: this was probably the longest TS I have ever seen. They played some new songs too. Sean basically just stood there and sweated all over the place. I can't even imagine cause sweat was dripping down my back and I wasn't doing anything physically laboreous.

I, Destroyer: with in the first minute of starting up, the bass head caught fire. One of the guys from the white mice lent them a head. The first 4 songs they went on to played were new. I'm prett sure they were the same songs they started off with at the livingroom show. Bob tried to play with a strobelight on, but the rest of the band couldn't deal with that. I like the style of the latter songs better, but the new songs at the beginning have a more massive rocking sound to them that make them sound so good.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jun 1,2006 11:05pm
damnit, I so missed this...fucking arrrgh...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 1,2006 11:47pm
3 bands left. get down here.

magrudergrind: very tight set. These guys rules and with the new CD have come along way from the noise CD before that. They were sort of trapped in by people. I was curious how the singer was going to jump. After he missed the first part that he would usually jump, I figure that was it. but nope, after that, he hit every single jump (except for the end one that I think I got in the way of). They got begged to do another song at the end and so they played a cover. Of what? Don't ask me. some people knew it cause they were singing along.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 12:40am
wow.. I'm fading... fast... 12:30 am two more bands.

sanitys_dawn: from germeny and they started setting up by piling beers up. one of them fell and he said in german "it's smooshed." this is makes the second time I've seen them. At MDF, I didn't really care for them. It's that hardcorey scream that is in almost ever song. If I ignored that, they were almost as good as magrudergrind. I heard that yell isn't on earlier stuff. I'm sure the majority of people were there to see them. Plenty of people came up to the front as they were playing..



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 1:20am
I can't believe I'm still here and awake.

YACOPSAE: their set list was longer than an anal cunt discography. I'm sure these rockers are still on Munchen time and are just ready to cease the day while us american wakers are fighting the sandman. Their set was the same one they played at MDF so it was like a 45 minute set. Like all the other bands I've seen since MDF, they sounded better. The drummer still kills me. He's so good. Unlike MSD, he was sweating a lot, but still made it look efortless. His sticks were hitting like machine guns. They played and encore song which was about 1 minute long.



toggletoggle post by demondave at Jun 2,2006 2:22am
I was totally impressed by the drummer of Yacopsae. I ended up sitting behind him on that Skateboard ramp. Watching him play was better than being in front in the smash of people where you could only see so much. I nabbed a discarded set list so that I could find the cooler drum songs later. I'm lucky. Redrum is just down the road from me. And the shows being dirt cheap with BYOB doesn't hurt either......



toggletoggle post by demondave at Jun 2,2006 2:23am
Rev, I hope you didn't dose off on your way home. You didn't seem as tired as you point out that you are.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 2,2006 2:28am
sorry that I left right after shrapnel's set...I had to drive home before I passed out, myself. But now I can't fall back to sleep...oh bother.


everyone buy "Black"



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jun 2,2006 2:57am
I stayed for the whole thing, I'm really tired, and I have to go to work soon.

Damn working at a donut shop.

It was all worth it though...fantastic show, best one I've seen this year.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 3:52am
oh man.. just got in the door.
so tired... need to get the pictures up and sleep for a couple hours.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 4:05am
just wanted to thank some of the heads on here who came out. matt rowe, brian dc, sly and craig. the doods from BBR, brendan tnc, aaron, patanomalous, the doods from long island and ct who drove up to see our sorry excuse for a band.

thanks im stoned, tired and now have a show with deceased today at the livingroom. so go to it and check out our new cd ha bitches !



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 4:19am
pictures



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 5:42am
oh yeah one more thing it was fucking awesome when i, destroyer started to cover the emerald.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 2,2006 8:52am
this show was a complete disaster, and not in a good way. The theme of this post is... Even if You're a Metal Band: Pull Your Head Out Of Your Ass

the show was advertised as 8:00, then as 9:00 then the first band didn't play until almost 10. I realize having a job that requires me to get up at 6am is my problem, but holy hell how about giving me a fucking break. It's a thursday night. By 11:00 only 2 bands had played. I don't know if they covered this in music theory class but that's fucking 2 bands in 2 hours. Ozzfest doesn't even keep that kind of schedule.

The first band played. They had some decent stuff, and were pretty diverse but it needs work. It seemed like the bass player had better vocal range than the singer and that's a problem. They dicked around a lot, and spent too much time in between songs with inside jokes and dumb shit. They also played for about a month which is a really stupid thing for an opening band to do. All in all it was really stale, and drawn out which sucks because a.) it set a shitty pace for the whole show and b.) i think they could be a much better band.

by the time I, Destroyer setup it was already July. Seriously, it shouldn't take a 4 peice band from the area that fucking long to setup. It was really disgraceful, and totally disrespectful to the rest of the show. And I'm not even talking about the bass head blowing out. The bass head thing could have been realized and resolved 15 minutes before hand if they had setup in a timely fashion like a normal band. And what does the singer do after they spend a month finally setting up??? He talks...and talks....and talks....and talks. I was embarassed even listening to it. You'd think after all the dicking around they'd maybe cut a few songs out of their set just to help keep the show moving. No dice they still played a mega long set with plenty of Bruce Dickinson rock star rambling. "...WE'LL REMEMBER THIS FOREVER..." okay Sting. What the hell are you talking about. If you really want to show respect to the other bands, and everyone who came out (i.e. the 20 minute speech towards the end of the set) how about finishing up your set and getting the fuck out of the way so these other bands can play. You're not the metal embassadors to Providence you're an opening band at a show in Olneyville. Once again, this band could be alright if they pulled their heads out of their asses.

Macgruder Grind played an outstanding set, and they've gotten so much better than the last time I saw them a few years ago at the middle east. It made it slightly difficult to hate them after the record breaking miserably long time they took to set up. Seriously, I've seen Sevendust setup, and break down faster than that. Great band that could benefit slightly from pulling their heads out of their asses.

So Sanity's Dawn is setting up, and they get everything together real quick, doing the SMART thing and sharing equipment with the band before them. Finally, I thought, someone is acting like they've played a show before. Then the PA is fucking up. Rather than someone being there to take care of it (like a normal show) they just let them stand there for 10 minutes barking at eachother in German trying to figure it out for themselves. After 15 minutes of this I see the singer from I, Show Destroyer come out to fix it and I knew the show was doomed. Another 15 minutes worth of cluelessness I'll never have back.
Sanity's Dawn was great, that goes without saying. But I had to fucking leave after they played because it was almost 1:00 in the fucking morning, and that fucking sucks.

After all I went through to goto that show I had to leave before seeing the band I came out to see all because a bunch of shitheads Helen Keller-ed their way through the show trying to act cool. *****I REALIZE**** that its your show, some people DID in fact come out to see your bands and I am not the center of the universe. But your friends can see your band anytime. Your local fans can see you anytime. When the later half of a show is from another fucking hemisphere you pull your shit together, act like you have a clue and try your best NOT to make a band that came all the way from Japan just to play in Olneyville play at 3 AM.

I get it, ya know, if I want a well organized show I should goto some yuppie shit show at the palladium. DIY shows are different, I get that, and if it was a weekend or something I would have stayed out till the sun came up. Hell, out of all the people I emailed for directions to this show I wound up recieving only 1 goddamn response (thank you Throwing Shrapnel). I don't fault Chris for it. I don't even know who I fault really. But somebody needs to do everyone a favor there and PULL THEIR HEAD OUT OF THEIR ASS.



toggletoggle post by demondave at Jun 2,2006 9:20am
You know what's really funny? This was the most organized show at Redrum I have ever seen. Six bands and it was over by 2am. xmikex, I know it really sucked that you couldn't stay for the whole thing. But even you have to admit that there is nothing.....formal? nah who are we kidding - There's nothing legal about this kind of show. Eight dollars is the most expensive I have seen. Usually, these kind of shows are "suggested donations". You walk in with your own liquor for godsake. This must be your first Redrum show. Basically, your attending someone's party.

Ending at 2am is normal on a weekend. In a club on a thursday in Providence they would be forced to end it by 1AM. But obviously this in not a club.

One funniy thing though. Bob said he was going to be cracking the whip on this show. He did, compared to other Redrum shows. I posted a remark joking that Sanitys Dawn would be going on at 11:30pm. He replied no, but sure enough, they did. :-)



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 9:35am
the 2am finish to unholy grave is my only complaint. I wish it got over at 1am so I wouldn't have gotten home at 4am.
but that's living on providence time. it's much different from NH time. 3hrs of sleep is a terrible thing to have to code all day on. All shows in PVD don't start until 10:30 usually cause people in that town will not leave their houses/appartment/shantytowns until 11pm.

I honestly think that there should be more redrum shows. the venue is totally chill, but I would like to see 8pm doors, 9pm start first band and 1am end (on weeknights) just my 2 cents.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 9:43am
hm.. and yacopsae or yacoepsae or YACÖPSAE?
I'm not sure how I should americanize it.. when you translate a O mit umlaut into english, it's suppose to be a OE... hm..



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 2,2006 9:49am
well if this show was an improvement from earlier shows (i've heard horror stories of 4 or 5 am show endings there) then i'll give the club a point for making the effort to improve itself. But it still needs work. Other than that I think it's a totally chill club, and if it continues to gradually pull it's head out of it's collective ass then I'd like to come back some time.



toggletoggle post by back alley abortionist at Jun 2,2006 10:08am
this show was fucking AWESOME! NO COMPLAINTS!

xmikex, i'm sorry it kept you up past your bedtime. <3



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 2,2006 10:41am
haha. believe me. i'm the first to admit that complaining about a show getting out late is ultra lame. a couple years ago I wouldn't have given a shit. but that show was moving SLOOOOWWWWW, and everyone I talked to was getting annoyed with it. Even Orgy said so, the dude's name is "Orgy", that means he doesn't give a fuck. haha



toggletoggle post by dantheman02909 at Jun 2,2006 10:50am
xMikex is a total pussy ass bitch...that show was awesome,redrum is awesome,and all the bands including I Destroyer were awesome. Those
guys do the best they can over there and support bands from all over the world giving them 90 percent of the door and taking all the risk. the only one disgraceful here is Mikex. what a bitch.your ghetto pass is revoked cracker.



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Jun 2,2006 11:01am
thanks to everybody that came out to the show & thanks to all the bands that played as well and xmikex if you emailed for directions they we're sent. everybody that emailed me for directions wre're sent directions. see you at the next redrum show!!!

support the d.i.y. scene & redrum....



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 2,2006 11:14am
constructive criticism. get with it nerds.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jun 2,2006 11:19am
Knowing Redrum as I do, I'm amazed this show got out so early. It's definitely the earliest finish to a Redrum show I've ever heard of. 2 am Olneyville time is like midnight in the rest of the world.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jun 2,2006 11:56am
Man, I went almost straight from this show to work(no sleep at all) and I think it was totally worth it. All the bands slayed and it started really early for a Redrum show. The 2am ending was a nice surprise too especially considering there were six bands and I was pressed on the clock the whole time I was there. The sound quality was great, I Destroyer sounded a lot better than they did at Giza(all I could hear that show was guitar) and all the other bands were clear too even though I really had nothing to compare it to. Yeah, so maybe the transitions could have been a little faster, maybe the show could have started a little earlier...but as far as shows starting earlier, I think that has more to do with people in Providence than the actual venue. Personally, I'm thorougly satisfied and hope to see a lot more Redrum in the future.



toggletoggle post by ElJustin  at Jun 2,2006 12:29pm
how was Unholy Grave? they RUUULED at MDF



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 1:47pm
also you gotta realize when you go to a redrum show, there might be bands playing but youre basically going to a party not a club.

stop whining and enjoy yourselves bitches



toggletoggle post by BOBDEAD at Jun 2,2006 2:12pm
Thanks Lamp...we have much more to come...including LimpWrist(ex Los Crudos) coming in the next couple of weeks. You know..running a DIY space
like we do is ALOT of work. We try to support bands and the scene the way we would want to be treated when we are on tour. Bands who come to Redrum get fed..they get beer/soft drinks...we help find them places to sleep if they are touring...we do TONS of flyering/promotion..and we give them 90 percent of the door. We provide the PA and as much gear as we can lend to help bands out...AND we take ALL the risks of throwing shows that the cops could close down at anytime.I challenge you to find ANY place where you get that kind of deal in the area...see if you get that next time you play the Living Room or As220. Redrum is NOT a nightclub...it is an underground gig space...Redrum is a collective of musicians trying to support fellow musicians. So I take great offence to people talking shit about what we are trying to do...but then its always the people who do the least..that shit talk the most. I'm wondering xMikeX..what exactly you do to give back to the scene? I have been putting on shows in Rhode Island for over 16 years now...we started back in 91 doing shows in our front yard in the woods of Northern Rhode Island with nothing more than a pallet stage and a 100 watt amp for a PA...hosting local bands before they went on to be "legends' like Disrupt,Grief,Taste of Fear,etc and a million touring bands that came through before RI even had a real scene to speak of...16 years later we are still here..still supporting bands from all over the world that come through and we have lost none of our ethics or motivation since that time. So its really funny to me to read Mike Xs review of the night and even funnier that he posted to give "constructive critisism" after slagging the shit out of everyone. Well..heres some constructive critisim Mike...FUCK YOURSELF...get your head out of YOUR ass. I know everyone is allowed to have an opinion (sometimes I think this site should be renamed "Return to the Shit talk"but I actually have respect for the Rev and his hard work and i know its only a couple of cowardly internet warriors that usually talk shit)so Ill post mine now in response. The show started late because people were just starting to come in at 9pm and I wanted Throwing Shrapnel to have an actual audience when they played..they are good kids..and work as hard as every other band on the bill so I figured I'd try to stall a little. So I moved the gig up to 930pm. They were great by the way too..best time Ive seen them yet. I Destroyer had problems from the get go...our bass amp caught on fire a minute into the set...it was tough to regroup. As far as Sting like 20 minute rants...bullshit...I only do that with DropDead(haha)...and I know I said very little at that gig... I have our set recorded and we played for less than 30 minutes minus the bass rig fire. Saying shit like we were "disgraceful"or "totally disrespectful" is absolute bullshit and sounds like a personal thing to me... I suggest maybe you have the balls to say it to my face next time...but like all pussy assed internet slaggers..you wont. Your review sounds more like you had your monthly "flow" and you couldnt take being up past the ungodly hour of 11pm than anything else. For future reference...PVD/Olneyville DIY shows are notoriously late starters...it isnt uncommon for shows to start as late as 11pm down there. One of the reasons is that we are trying to avoid the cops...the other is that Olneyvillains just dont come out early to shows..regardless of how many times we try to get things started early.It is what it is..and we try to do the best we can under the circumstance. Sometimes we have gear breakdowns...sometimes we have overly long set ups but shit happens...and we try to get through it the best we can. AGAIN..we are NOT a NIGHTCLUB.We dont have a crew of pro soundmen and $10.000 gear to work with. So if your gonna be a baby bitch and cry that your all tired for work the next time...and its past your bedtime....drink a fucking Redbull or better yet...dont come. Olneyville doesnt work on the time table alot of places work on...if anything it reminds me alot of the underground scene in Europe where I have literally gone onstage at 4am many,many times...or CBGBS when the last time Dropdead played we went on at 3am. Sorry...thats the way it is...and the bands who play here know what to expect. It is NEVER meant to be disrespectful. The upside is that EVERY band that played last night told me that other than the "late factor"...Redrum/Chris Abomb gave them one of the best/most respectful gigs of the tour. So I guess Ill actually take the bands review of the night over xMikexs because in the ends they are who matters to me. I have a great idea Mike..how about you start your own DIY space and we'll all sit back and see how you carry the torch. But I'm betting its easier for you to just keep supporting the big clubs/promoters that constantly rip bands off and whos only motivation is to profit from bands blood,sweat and years. I refuse to do that...and I will continue to do things on a DIY basis with as much respect and hard work as we ALWAYS give to all the bands that come through. Things dont always run smooth...but they always run...and I think 16 years in is a pretty good record so far....lets see what you got to put up Mike. There are those that DO..and those who sit back and criticize, its always the same. Thanks to all the people who came last night and supported the DIY/extreme music scene and Redrum...we will continue to persevere and you can expect alot more this summer.



toggletoggle post by BOBDEAD at Jun 2,2006 2:13pm
Thanks Lamp...we have much more to come...including LimpWrist(ex Los Crudos) coming in the next couple of weeks. You know..running a DIY space
like we do is ALOT of work. We try to support bands and the scene the way we would want to be treated when we are on tour. Bands who come to Redrum get fed..they get beer/soft drinks...we help find them places to sleep if they are touring...we do TONS of flyering/promotion..and we give them 90 percent of the door. We provide the PA and as much gear as we can lend to help bands out...AND we take ALL the risks of throwing shows that the cops could close down at anytime.I challenge you to find ANY place where you get that kind of deal in the area...see if you get that next time you play the Living Room or As220. Redrum is NOT a nightclub...it is an underground gig space...Redrum is a collective of musicians trying to support fellow musicians. So I take great offence to people talking shit about what we are trying to do...but then its always the people who do the least..that shit talk the most. I'm wondering xMikeX..what exactly you do to give back to the scene? I have been putting on shows in Rhode Island for over 16 years now...we started back in 91 doing shows in our front yard in the woods of Northern Rhode Island with nothing more than a pallet stage and a 100 watt amp for a PA...hosting local bands before they went on to be "legends' like Disrupt,Grief,Taste of Fear,etc and a million touring bands that came through before RI even had a real scene to speak of...16 years later we are still here..still supporting bands from all over the world that come through and we have lost none of our ethics or motivation since that time. So its really funny to me to read Mike Xs review of the night and even funnier that he posted to give "constructive critisism" after slagging the shit out of everyone. Well..heres some constructive critisim Mike...FUCK YOURSELF...get your head out of YOUR ass. I know everyone is allowed to have an opinion (sometimes I think this site should be renamed "Return to the Shit talk"but I actually have respect for the Rev and his hard work and i know its only a couple of cowardly internet warriors that usually talk shit)so Ill post mine now in response. The show started late because people were just starting to come in at 9pm and I wanted Throwing Shrapnel to have an actual audience when they played..they are good kids..and work as hard as every other band on the bill so I figured I'd try to stall a little. So I moved the gig up to 930pm. They were great by the way too..best time Ive seen them yet. I Destroyer had problems from the get go...our bass amp caught on fire a minute into the set...it was tough to regroup. As far as Sting like 20 minute rants...bullshit...I only do that with DropDead(haha)...and I know I said very little at that gig... I have our set recorded and we played for less than 30 minutes minus the bass rig fire. Saying shit like we were "disgraceful"or "totally disrespectful" is absolute bullshit and sounds like a personal thing to me... I suggest maybe you have the balls to say it to my face next time...but like all pussy assed internet slaggers..you wont. Your review sounds more like you had your monthly "flow" and you couldnt take being up past the ungodly hour of 11pm than anything else. For future reference...PVD/Olneyville DIY shows are notoriously late starters...it isnt uncommon for shows to start as late as 11pm down there. One of the reasons is that we are trying to avoid the cops...the other is that Olneyvillains just dont come out early to shows..regardless of how many times we try to get things started early.It is what it is..and we try to do the best we can under the circumstance. Sometimes we have gear breakdowns...sometimes we have overly long set ups but shit happens...and we try to get through it the best we can. AGAIN..we are NOT a NIGHTCLUB.We dont have a crew of pro soundmen and $10.000 gear to work with. So if your gonna be a baby bitch and cry that your all tired for work the next time...and its past your bedtime....drink a fucking Redbull or better yet...dont come. Olneyville doesnt work on the time table alot of places work on...if anything it reminds me alot of the underground scene in Europe where I have literally gone onstage at 4am many,many times...or CBGBS when the last time Dropdead played we went on at 3am. Sorry...thats the way it is...and the bands who play here know what to expect. It is NEVER meant to be disrespectful. The upside is that EVERY band that played last night told me that other than the "late factor"...Redrum/Chris Abomb gave them one of the best/most respectful gigs of the tour. So I guess Ill actually take the bands review of the night over xMikexs because in the ends they are who matters to me. I have a great idea Mike..how about you start your own DIY space and we'll all sit back and see how you carry the torch. But I'm betting its easier for you to just keep supporting the big clubs/promoters that constantly rip bands off and whos only motivation is to profit from bands blood,sweat and years. I refuse to do that...and I will continue to do things on a DIY basis with as much respect and hard work as we ALWAYS give to all the bands that come through. Things dont always run smooth...but they always run...and I think 16 years in is a pretty good record so far....lets see what you got to put up Mike. There are those that DO..and those who sit back and criticize, its always the same. Thanks to all the people who came last night and supported the DIY/extreme music scene and Redrum...we will continue to persevere and you can expect alot more this summer.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 2:59pm
BOBDEAD said:
sometimes I think this site should be renamed "Return to the Shit talk


it's funny cause the new guy from Nile only knows this site from the shit talk. he opened a thread and in big letters it says FUCK NILE.

the web's motto: "have internet, will shit talk"

the dave spade show did a piece on what internet forums were saying about some topic and it was all LOL's, OMG's, and "___ is gay"



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 2,2006 3:07pm
I actually want to thank Bob for starting the show late. I had been out of town for a week and just got done driving back from Alabama. I got to RI at 9:15 and ran over to Redrum as fast as I could to catch Throwing Shrapnel's set. I've been waiting for their CD since November and this was their first show since Dave had his health issue. I'm going to stay out of everything else since I have no right or knowledge because I did leave very early because that cross country drive kicked the shit out of me. But I'm glad that my admission went to the bands and support a scene that is focused on music and music alone.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 2,2006 3:53pm
fuck that guy mike, bob. what a shit head. he doesnt know what hes talking about.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 3:57pm
hey bob, or anyone else from the redrum household. i left my cd book there lastnight could someone please let me know if i could swing by on the way to the livingroom tonight or if one of y'all are going could you grab it and bring it. you couldnt miss it, its blue with a grief sticker on it.



toggletoggle post by BOBDEAD at Jun 2,2006 4:01pm
i'll look for it when i go down there at 6pm,bro..if its there its safe.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 4:02pm
awesome thanks bob and thanks for the great show lastnight.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 4:07pm
I saw it there on the side of the skate ramp where the radio was.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jun 2,2006 4:11pm
well, I had to be up for work at 5:30 this morning, and I still had a blast.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 2,2006 4:17pm
the_reverend said:
I saw it there on the side of the skate ramp where the radio was.


yeah collecting all the gear and shit to leave, i forgot about till we passed the 495 bridge.

at least i still have my virginity



toggletoggle post by kevinfitz at Jun 2,2006 5:13pm
xmikex is seriously gay



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Jun 2,2006 7:29pm
bobdead is totally on point with his comments on the show & i back him 100% with any d.i.y. show he puts, promotes or has anything to do with. he deserves the respect he gets & he should continue to get that respect because he's gives the respect in return. he's been here on the scene for 16+ years & isn't going anywhere. support redrum & the olneyville/providence d.i.y scene.....

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP BOB. IT WAS REALLY APPRECIATED!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 2,2006 8:15pm
I see xmikex gets grumpy when he's tired. he's sure going to sleep well tonight!

unholy grave: all the other bands were good, but this band was what got me out of going to one of the 10 closer shows and tracking all the way down to RI. This band is the reason it's 1:30am, I have a 2hr drive, and work in the morning, but I'm still sitting in a neglected part of RI waiting for a band from japan to play. This was the first band that played MDF actually played better at MDF. I think the sound for them was much clearer down south and they had a lot more room to move around. This show was tight and homey so they had all the people in the audience litterally on their laps. The set still ruled. This riced fueled band was running around the whole set with smiling. They ended at the strike of 2am and didn't do encore, even though they were begged.

I got home at 4am. got to bed by 4:30am... got woken up at 6am cause of the cats and then again at 7am cause of a leaky roof.
finally got up at 7:40am for work.
now, I wonder why I keep falling asleep with my eyes open!



toggletoggle post by frank grimes at Jun 2,2006 9:11pm
in defense of xmikex i can see why he bitched. you know since the olnyville scene is filled with a lot of uneducated, unkempt, and unemployed individuals to them there is no concept of time. seriously the most they have to wake up for is to screen print his hero is gone or assuck merch to build up their financial value off of ebay. bitch about how contrast records is no more but thankful that armageddon is still around even though they don't carry the new melt banana (god forbid!), hang out on thayer and try to be as "intimidating" as the harvard square drunk punks. also smell like trash and pretend to be all about anarchy, veganism, and food not bombs bullshit. so mike you should've known better than to enter the toilet state for a reasonable timed show.



toggletoggle post by kevinfitz at Jun 2,2006 10:16pm
keep listening to your Sevendust records bro...



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jun 3,2006 3:16am
KeithMutiny said:
well, I had to be up for work at 5:30 this morning, and I still had a blast.





toggletoggle post by too bad they dont have shows at hot topic... at Jun 3,2006 11:25am
man, i love helping promote a show for a friend/euro bands, then, bringing our OWN p.a., setting it up for everyone all night, letting everyone use it, smoking out the touring bands, showing them a good time, actually having a really good time at the show, then...the complaints start....xmikex, kid, how old are you anyway? you seem to be a little lost and ignorant. you got alot of balls talking shit about bands and a show that you had nothing to do with...im sorry our head blew up, and it took us a second to get a new one, but, luckily, if wil from the white mice didn't have a head there in seconds like he did, we probably would have really heard it from you...get a fucking life...have you never been to the redrum before? everyone 'should get their heads out of their asses', fuck you...where else do you go to see a fucking great show, with no hassles, good people and oh yeah, there is usually a keg included with your donation...thats right D O N A T I O N.....so, if you have 3 bucks for a 5 dollar show, you're usually gonna get in, and get your buzz on...oh yeah, your band sounded awesome the other night....ooops, i forgot...you probably dont have one...so, heres a tip: go buy a powerball ticket, hope you win, buy your own mill/show space, start up your own band, then, throw some shows that run a little late, so, that everyone you just shit on can have an opportunity to shit on you, and you can see what its like to put in a lot of hard work and that have little cunts like you voice their stupid, uneducated opinions that dont hold anything. i dont know you, and you dont know us, but, when you start shitting on my friends, and overall good people trying to do shit for our scene, then, i will offer my two cents...you started this shit, kiddo, hope you either shut up, apologize, or just prepare for more 'opinions' from people. you suck. and your attitude stinks. and you especially have no place talking shit about bob otis...'he talks to much'...guess what? HE HAS THE MIC....hahahaha. fool.
ps: sevendust is very gay, they have ROADIES, you know, people you pay to set up /break down your instruments, i guess until our bruce dickinson rock star rambling pays off, we'll just be another opening band in olneyville, and not the metal ambassadors we so wanted to be.
sevendust is so fucking queer....you really fucked yourself mentioning that band, and that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. see you at the next redrum show!! (if its not too late for you!) xoxoxmike.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 3,2006 12:03pm
frank grimes said:
even though they don't carry the new melt banana (god forbid!),


leave Melt Banana out of this! they had NOTHING to do with it!



toggletoggle post by lilpunkrockgrrl at Jun 3,2006 12:07pm
Olneyville/Redrum/I Destroyer/Bob Destroyer rule! THANKS for EVERYTHING you do for us in Providence you ROCK! FUCK Mikex



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 3,2006 2:46pm
too bad they dont have shows at hot topic... said:
man, i love helping promote a show for a friend/euro bands, then, bringing our OWN p.a., setting it up for everyone all night, letting everyone use it, smoking out the touring bands, showing them a good time, actually having a really good time at the show, then...the complaints start....xmikex, kid, how old are you anyway? you seem to be a little lost and ignorant. you got alot of balls talking shit about bands and a show that you had nothing to do with...im sorry our head blew up, and it took us a second to get a new one, but, luckily, if wil from the white mice didn't have a head there in seconds like he did, we probably would have really heard it from you...get a fucking life...have you never been to the redrum before? everyone 'should get their heads out of their asses', fuck you...where else do you go to see a fucking great show, with no hassles, good people and oh yeah, there is usually a keg included with your donation...thats right D O N A T I O N.....so, if you have 3 bucks for a 5 dollar show, you're usually gonna get in, and get your buzz on...oh yeah, your band sounded awesome the other night....ooops, i forgot...you probably dont have one...so, heres a tip: go buy a powerball ticket, hope you win, buy your own mill/show space, start up your own band, then, throw some shows that run a little late, so, that everyone you just shit on can have an opportunity to shit on you, and you can see what its like to put in a lot of hard work and that have little cunts like you voice their stupid, uneducated opinions that dont hold anything. i dont know you, and you dont know us, but, when you start shitting on my friends, and overall good people trying to do shit for our scene, then, i will offer my two cents...you started this shit, kiddo, hope you either shut up, apologize, or just prepare for more 'opinions' from people. you suck. and your attitude stinks. and you especially have no place talking shit about bob otis...'he talks to much'...guess what? HE HAS THE MIC....hahahaha. fool.
ps: sevendust is very gay, they have ROADIES, you know, people you pay to set up /break down your instruments, i guess until our bruce dickinson rock star rambling pays off, we'll just be another opening band in olneyville, and not the metal ambassadors we so wanted to be.
sevendust is so fucking queer....you really fucked yourself mentioning that band, and that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. see you at the next redrum show!! (if its not too late for you!) xoxoxmike.


i didn't even read the majority of that post. i'm 24. i've been going to shows for almost 10 years now. if you had a clue you'd see that i've commented on I, Destroyer before and had decent things to say. I'm not your mother I don't have to pretend to like everything you do, but I went out of my way to say I liked your band before. So you're welcome asshole.

Your singer talked too much. It's a valid criticism. I don't care if he has a microphone, a megaphone or a cellphone. It was distracting and annoying and it made an otherwise decent set look dumb.

I am in a band. I've been doing bands for years playing all over the place. I know very well that it's easy to get nervous and have a tendency to talk way too much in between songs. It might seem like a decent idea when you're standing there with the mic but to people in the crowd who might not peticularly care it's annoying. Haha, I can name an instance or two from years ago when I talked for too long, or told a story that grossed everybody out or something and a dozen kids at a time would get up and walk out.

Honestly, you nerds are blowing it out of proportion. Everybody who knows me from here knows I'm never serious about anything I post. I actually did have a fun time at this show hanging out with kids I hadn't seen in a while. But the fact is that this show could have run A LOT smoother than it did, and lame assholes like me who have to wake the hell up in the morning could have enjoyed it as much as the rest of you did.

Don't talk to me about being Mr. Professional Band Guy. If you're in a band you should be prepared for criticism. And there's a lot worse things that could be said besides "your singer talks too much". What a crybaby. I'm sure we've both been called a lot worse by disgruntled show-goers for a lot less. Then again what the hell do I know. I don't even own any King Diamond on vinyl or whatever you kids think is cool.

Grow up, suck it up, learn how to accept criticism.

Have a good weekend everybody!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 3,2006 2:48pm
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
I'll be pregnant by the time I'm 20. I'll drop out of community college to be a Buddhist and spend the next five years being used a cum rag for every crust punk with a studded jacket and a pulse





toggletoggle post by mike. at Jun 3,2006 3:15pm
first off, xmikex, i never post about any personal scene drama, i've been shit on by ex-friends and anonymous' repeatedly on this site. i've never said anything. however, i take offense to your comments, especially if they entail bob, and the work he does, and the risks he takes. i was just putting in my two cents, the comments seemed malicious and angry to me, so i responded, maybe i should just not have said anything. i did cause i have no idea who this guy is that is shitting on an otherwise good night and why he is. thats all. if you commented on idestroyer before in a positive way, i really do thank you, i just did not notice when they were posted, as i dont really follow all the posts. we try to have a good time and have fun with everyone when we play. so, maybe the whole lapse before we played was with the feeling of being comfortable with cool people and friends, a loose environment...i can deal with critisim, so can the other guys...like i said it just sounded shitty. i also was not aware that you're not serious about anything you post. im not either. im cool if you're cool. i apologize if you took shit the wrong way, but, maybe next time you should mention that you ARE in a band and that you HAVE talked alot in between songs and you're not serious about your intended post. it would make things alot more clear from the get-go. oh yeah, btw, i had to be at work for 5:30am in beautiful south providence, so, i understand your pain. i also have no problem saying how much i hate the fact that the redrum crowd cant wake up early enough to get to a show at a decent time. maybe its about time we change that shit for the working class stiffs that have to wake up at ungodly hours of the morning. thanks chrisbomb, rev and xmikex.



toggletoggle post by lilpunkrockgrrl at Jun 3,2006 3:51pm
xmikex said:
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
I'll be pregnant by the time I'm 20. I'll drop out of community college to be a Buddhist and spend the next five years being used a cum rag for every crust punk with a studded jacket and a pulse




Thats funny Mikex...I go to Bryant College FULL TIME studying Business law...im 24 an agnostic and I wouldnt fuck a scummy crusty punk any more than i would fuck an uptight cracker ass new metal douche like yourself. Is
there anything else you can look like a limp dick about or should you just shut the fuck up now?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 4,2006 2:14am
mike. said:
first off, xmikex, i never post about any personal scene drama, i've been shit on by ex-friends and anonymous' repeatedly on this site. i've never said anything. however, i take offense to your comments, especially if they entail bob, and the work he does, and the risks he takes. i was just putting in my two cents, the comments seemed malicious and angry to me, so i responded, maybe i should just not have said anything. i did cause i have no idea who this guy is that is shitting on an otherwise good night and why he is. thats all. if you commented on idestroyer before in a positive way, i really do thank you, i just did not notice when they were posted, as i dont really follow all the posts. we try to have a good time and have fun with everyone when we play. so, maybe the whole lapse before we played was with the feeling of being comfortable with cool people and friends, a loose environment...i can deal with critisim, so can the other guys...like i said it just sounded shitty. i also was not aware that you're not serious about anything you post. im not either. im cool if you're cool. i apologize if you took shit the wrong way, but, maybe next time you should mention that you ARE in a band and that you HAVE talked alot in between songs and you're not serious about your intended post. it would make things alot more clear from the get-go. oh yeah, btw, i had to be at work for 5:30am in beautiful south providence, so, i understand your pain. i also have no problem saying how much i hate the fact that the redrum crowd cant wake up early enough to get to a show at a decent time. maybe its about time we change that shit for the working class stiffs that have to wake up at ungodly hours of the morning. thanks chrisbomb, rev and xmikex.


i can deal with that. the post i made originally was made around 8 am. nobody's happy then expecially when you're running on 4 hours sleep. i probably took it too far, but I was just trying to get a point across. rock n rule.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 4,2006 2:27am
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
xmikex said:
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
I'll be pregnant by the time I'm 20. I'll drop out of community college to be a Buddhist and spend the next five years being used a cum rag for every crust punk with a studded jacket and a pulse




Thats funny Mikex...I go to Bryant College FULL TIME studying Business law...im 24 an agnostic and I wouldnt fuck a scummy crusty punk any more than i would fuck an uptight cracker ass new metal douche like yourself. Is
there anything else you can look like a limp dick about or should you just shut the fuck up now?


oh wow, "full time" at Bryant College, excuse me Copernicus. I guess attending a college that advertises during Montel Williams really proves you're down. Do you have any mail order associates degrees you'd like to throw in my face too? I'm sure that business law degree will work out splendidly when you're 30 and still working in the food court of the Providence Place Mall. I don't know of too many companies willing to hire a lawyer who refuses to take off her jelly bracelets, and "You're Just Jelous The Voices Only Talk to Me" shirt.



toggletoggle post by lilpunkrockgrrl at Jun 4,2006 3:20am
I bet you get ALL the girls ;)



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 4,2006 1:28pm
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
I bet you get ALL the girls ;)


I bet you get ALL the STD's



toggletoggle post by lilpunkrockgrrl at Jun 4,2006 2:41pm
only if i were to fuck a late night trannie soliciting new metal fag like you mikey...kisses



toggletoggle post by bikeassault  at Jun 5,2006 12:57am
Man that show was a fucking blast! Thanks Bob and Chris for hooking us up, that was seriously one of the best shows on the whole tour. Both local bands and all of the international bands crushed! Who gives a fuck if it runs late, it's a punk show. That space is fucking great and i hope you can continue to put on shows there for as long as you can. Get your ass down to DC soon! Thanks for always taking awesome pictures everytime we are up in your area rev. Hope to see you guys soon.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 8:14am
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
only if i were to fuck a late night trannie soliciting new metal fag like you mikey...kisses


obviously you don't major in comebacks. this argument ended like 2 days ago. now you're just trying to make out with me. it's really embarassing to watch.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jun 5,2006 8:44am
Wow, the way you two argue it almost looks like you're actually arguing about something.



toggletoggle post by lilstdgrrrl at Jun 5,2006 11:01am
isn't that precious. "lilpunkgrrrrl" wants to be taken seriously on a thread. i guess the fruits of that hard earned business degree translated in to giving give toothy blowjobs in the bathroom. or better yet, pretending to support a scene you don't know anything about. who's going to take you seriously when all you have to counter with is "i wouldn't fuck a crust punk" followed by an inane emoticon. oh, word. you don't fuck? your award for outstanding achievement in the field of abstinence is in the mail. you suck.



toggletoggle post by lilpunkrockgrrl at Jun 5,2006 12:33pm
I wouldnt expect to be able to defend myself in such a misogynistic ,sexist arena. You closeted women haters outnumber poor little me 100 to one on here I'm sure. As soon as a woman voices her opinion on this board she immediately is a whore. What a bunch of insecure limp dicks. My only intention on here was to defend the awesome people at the Redrum that you shit talk about. But your right guys! YOU WIN! Now you can celibrate by sucking each others cocks! Im all done having friggin msg board wars. You can RULE the rest of this thread you hunky HE/she MEN! You suuuuure showed me!



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Jun 5,2006 12:39pm
whore



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 12:46pm
lilpunkrockgrrl said:
YOU WIN!


now you're making some sense.

i never "talked shit" on anybody. i suggested that they should move their shows along faster. I guess comprehension isn't a big requirement over at """"BRYANT COLLEGE""" ooooooOOoOoooooOOooooO




toggletoggle post by lilstdgrrrl at Jun 5,2006 3:47pm
why are you so quick to assume i'm a guy? yeah, like my bucketloads of intimidating testosterone is keeping you from being heard. boo hoo hoo. lilpunkgrrrl needs to defend herself on the big mean forum (and infinitely bone dudes in the process to get closure on her relationship with her father). call the waaahhhmbulence.
defending redrum is perfectly fine. maybe if you hadn't bad mouthed someone in the process of defending redrum you wouldn't be making such a fucking fool out of yourself. girls voice stupid opinions all the time and you don't see me throwing my hands in the air and saying you should go back to the kitchen. it's self righteous girls like you who pretend to be the music encyclopedia of knowledge that suck. so brainiac, does "defening" yourself also entail ganging up on one person for the sake of looking good? way to go, bryant college: 10,000 retards and counting.


seriously, though. i'm just pissed that your username is "lilpunkrockgrrl". i hear the AOL punk chatroom wants N00DZ.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jun 5,2006 5:27pm
i think this has gone far beyond rediculous.



toggletoggle post by the protagonist at Jun 5,2006 8:14pm
looks like mikex got his mom to post too(lilstdgrrrl)! Jesus fuck thats gay.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 9:31pm
it was my babysitter. and she has a PhD in internet zingers.

ya i don't know who posted that. but it's hardly inconcievable that someone would want to knock on somebody who yanked their screen name off a Fall Out Boy fan forum. wah wahh.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 9:42pm
and I'd like to PS that by saying: Look how serious you kids take the internet. It's enough to make your testicles shrink.

The top of the page here says "discuss", and that crybabys is what we're here for: discussion, ideas are exchanged maybe you change my opinions, maybe I change yours. What it does not say is "act like a girl and throw a shitfit", hell maybe it should. What it boils down to is that two of the most rational people in this whole DISCUSSION have been myself, and the dude from I, Destroyer (the band I supposedly insulted). So many more of you with nothing to do with it are getting your vaginas wrinkled over it for nothing. If your parade got pissed on that's your problem chief. Get mad, stay mad. It's seriously hilarious.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jun 5,2006 10:09pm
i cant believe this is still going on



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jun 5,2006 10:10pm
Can't we all just agree not to take showers?



toggletoggle post by Kissel at Jun 6,2006 8:23am
DEAR XMIKEX ...



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 6,2006 8:58am
If David Hasselhoff has to do your talking for you, you've got nothing to say.

Next.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 6,2006 10:00am
queers. all of you.



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