i am scared that the end times are near! it seems to be getting worse not better! war, weather, and how people are these days are whacked! no one believes in god! they think it is all bull! and i see that its not! is there anyone on this site who know what i,m talking about? and please do,nt start anything with this girl! i just want to know if anyone knows metalhead wise where i,m coming from! SARAH

there's always been war, shitty weather, and crappy people... what makes today any different from 100 years ago?

diddo

i see it, a lot of the predictions from revalations are coming true. The reforming of israel alone is predicted. then the muslim terrorist, thats predicted. The anscestors of Ishmael=islamic people. Ancestors of Issac= Jews. Abraham was supposed to be the father of many nations. The new Babylon is predicted to be a land where there is a very immoral way of living and taht starts wars that never hit there shore. Sounds a lot like america to me. Oddly enough the Babylon of the old era was Iraq. The ancestors of Ishmael are supposed to wage war on "Babylon". I've studied this stuff for years out of pure interest. Its scary how a lot of it is coming true. I hate the fact that people do no research and then will start making excuses. Dont reply to this unless you've actually studied any of this and know what I'm talking about or having something interesting to add. I don't need to read ignorant comments.

And a lot of predictions from revelations are NOT coming true. What's your point? I noticed that every example you just gave required some modification or interpretation to explain.

Where's the 7 seals? I haven't swum in any blood lately. I haven't seen the birth of a soulless child as the guff is emptied. I do believe in some of revelations, but I find it more an example of apt observance of society's predictable nature than one of actual pre-determination.

As for Sarah - A lot of people don't believe in god for a good reason. There's no god. Even if there were, I doubt he really would give a shit about us, his greatest creation and worst failure. If we were to interpret revelations literally, as Justin did, than the religously convicted (george bush and his followers) would be the puppets of lucifer and lillith's child (the anti-christ), NOT the athiests, agnostics, or realists like myself. And again, if revelations were applied, than Bush will start the apocalypse, the guff will run dry, and the anti-christ will reveal himself in his new immortality (by showing the sign of the beast he bears) and await the return of Christ, to renew the war and end it for good.

Also, while discussing Revelations and the end of times, I've got some bad news. If you're right, then we lose. Satan and Lilith were two of god's most POWERFUL creations, thus satan's near vanquishment of the realms of heaven, and lilith's overpowering and complete domination of Adam, leading to her banishment from Eden. Thier son is to be one of the greatest forces ever to exist in nature besides god himself. Until his birth, Lucifer himself held that title, having held enough power to nearly defeat god himself. Even jesus never did (or will) yield that kind of power. That's the purpose of Revelations: we were supposed to grow, evolve, and fight alongside the messiah. As it stands now, we'd likely be wiped out within hours of the battle's beginning. Lucifer was correct, we DIDN'T deserve this world and all it's fruit, and according to your bible he intends to facilitate our demise upon the coming of apocalypse.

i want to watch the apocalypse on CNN so badly...

the world has always sucked and always will suck so there's no purpose in trying to debate that times now are worse than ever...cuz im sure after a few more months of bush the world will hate us even more

By the way, while on the subject:

Satan never had a problem with God. Satan loves god more than any human can comprehend. Read your damned bible - satan hates US. He wanted the earth to remain as the domain of ANGELS like himself, and not see it turned over to weak and evil beings like ourselves. God argued that we were not weak and evil. Would you agree? I wouldn't. We're pieces of shit.

The devil had the power to destroy all of heaven, and God was unable to stop him. Again, read your bible. Satan was not "Cast out" of heaven. He was asked to leave, and refused. He waged war against god, and was winning. He removed HIMSELF because he could not bear to harm god, for he loved god. He willingly stepped aside to end the war in heaven. This is why the final battle will be god's human child vs. Lucifer's divine child. God and Lucifer could never bring themselves to harm each other. Notice that no matter who wins, God and Lucifer both walk away unscathed. It's merely OUR existance at stake.

No it's definetely all over pretty soon sarah don't be scared except the pain thats coming to us. love Jack Daniels.

arrowheads right, it is interpretation, but as far i see it, it fits in a weird way, theres no way u can take the predictions literally, its impossible, just like in isaiah jesus was supposed to come as the king of kings, jews took that literally and when jesus came as a simple man, they didnt believe it was the messiah because he wasnt born into a royal family, it must be interperted to make sense.

but everyone has there own opinion

ArrowHead said:


Speak for yourself...you make your own choices, and if you choose to be a piece of shit, then, you are, but Im not.

there's not gonna be an apocalypse, if there were it would have happened during the cold war. And those of you that think that there will be one, i feel sorry for you because theres something wrong with your logic process.

and how can anayone say theres no god? i don't personaly believe in him but nobody knows for a fact that there's no god. Same going the other way. Drop the argument that can't be proved or disproved.

i think it's peoples belief in god that may ruin this country. the seperation of church and state is one of the most instrumental aspects of our freedom as americans. it's those damned right wing christian conservatives.

actually... it's widely believed that Paul's Revelation account was bs that he made up to scare people into xtianity. he just grouped together all the "scariest" symbols of the day.

but judeo/x-tian's core beliefs about not killing people, not fucking your neighbor, not stealing, etc... are pretty good rules to live by.
just like the one about not fucking a girl during her period and if you do, you are case out of your city for 7 days.. and a girl on her period must sit in her tent on a pile of cloth for 7 days.

tbone_r said:

we take that law too literaly, it was meant so we wouldn't be like england in that everyone was forced to worship to there church(the church of england). Imagin the church of america, thats what our founding father were afraid of. Not stupid shit like prayer in school and the 10 commandments in a court house.

I'd just like to say that this thread is really really good.

were all fucking dead soon enough, the end is near

Im scurred!

There is NO "god.

eddie said:


best post of the millenium

Hehehehe there is no "god".


OK 99.9% no "god"


Fucking think, people. THINK!!!

powerkok said:

Yes you are. Humans by nature are destructive to the environment around us. It's part of how we adapted to survive. Think of the part in "the Matrix" where agent smith explains how he considers humans to be a "virus". Pretty right on target. We as a species destroy the world around us, intentionally or not. It has nothing to do with choices, or who you are as a person, Powerkok.

Word up Arrowhead. In general we suck.

and no "god" is going to help us. I'm sorry to be so rude. But I really don't give a shit right now.

ArrowHead said:


So kill yourself and save the earth from having to deal with more "virus". While your at it try and get the cast of Full House to kill themselves with you.

You don't get it at all eddie. It's all about me, always will be. I choose no side but my own. God, Jesus, the Devil, Hitler, and George Bush can all go fend for themselves.

swamplorddvm said:

I believe in a higher being, human understanding is just so much, and from my own experience, i can tell you theres a higher being, i dont wanna get into it, because its too crazy, but ppl who know me kinda have an idea

Believe in whatever you like, Justin. We're americans, It's our right to do so. However, by believing in your god, why must you assume he's got any intentions of helping us? Help ourselves, I think THAT is the greatest message the bible ever gave.

stainless said:

IN-FUCKING-DEED

I like the post about how it is just as silly to say there isn't a god as it is to say there is one. I believe I've said that at least a few times elsewhere on this forum.

i will be listening to Goatsnake cover Sabbath's "Who are Free" !

ArrowHead said:

unless you want to be a muslim. and then you're a terrorist

we need an apocalypse...but an easily survivable one...like zombies that can't run or do anything uber like in the new movies. or maybe a plague of gnats.

or VIGO!!!! YOU ARE LIKE THE BUZZING OF FLIES TO HIM!

i got called terroist tonight (?)

i think this board needs more ghostbusters II references.

Ha that was awesome, good for you

sacreligion said:

oh man!!!!! ghostbusters 2. I think i'll watch that at some point today. I wonder if they have the cartoon series on dvd yet.

The only 'Endtimes' I see coming is going to be caused by one of two things, (or both!!)
A- the planet seems to be going through one of it's instable phases, where the liquid iron core is getting so twisted up that it will flip the earth causing all sorts of fucked up shit, but that is what the planet does every 10,000 years or whatever, so i've been told.
B- we're going to fuck this planet up in a global nuclear war
which leads to C- god has and never did have anything to do with it.
god is something that man made up to explain shit he doesn't understand, to control large populations and keep them in line, and lastly to lift the quilt of killing millions of people in holy wars.

underage girls

Wraithious, the earth doesn't flip, the magnetic field flips.

i don't get the whole global warming thing. it seems to me the earth goes into cycles, after the iceage it gets hot, then it will cool down into another iceage then get hot again ect. so either global warming is not a threat or its our savior to prevent another iceage. of course by that logic we're fucked once the earth starts heating up whats already warm.

i dunno i thought i'd throw that out there and see what others think. Because i see another iceage maybe killing all of us at somepoint. or getting rid of 99999\10000 of the population.

They say global warming will actually lead to an ice age (and they also say we're due for another one). Umm, I forget what the explanation for this is.

wow sarah! look what you started girl! last night was awesome! you should see this thread!

we all die. why not at least make it interesting. I'm all for an all out war, pestilance, plague and famine. I'm sure that the middle ages looked a lot like the appocolypse with the black plague and the crusades.

Speaking from an evolutionary view point, when animals, especially heard animals, become too great and exceed the caring capacity of the land, nature has it's way of leveling the population, usually disease and famine. Secondly, extreme weather patterns are natural in the cycle of the earth. Thirdly, humans have always waged war. Our technology has just excellerated everything, especially our imaginations. I think most of this appocolyptic bible crap is becoming self fulfilled prophacy.

But then again, the Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012.

so we will party on Dec. 20th 2012, just in case. Ill bring reefer.

thornnvine said:

That's interesting, could you elaborate a little on that?

I've read about 2012 and there are some different theories about it. One theory is that the world will stop turning for 40 hours or so and then it will start turning in the opposite direction,causing earthquakes,volcanos,and another flood. Some mayan texts mention how the sun didn't go down for about two days,and there are other ancient texts talking about 2 days of night,so supposidly the mayans started the calender from this event and calculated when this will happen again.Another theory is that an alien race that visited this planet thousands and thousands of years ago will return and probably wipe out mankind and start over again.

wow, that is all strange, I'll have to do some reading on that

This thread is as whack as my "god", why or who not? thread.

hahahahaha I remember that thread man. That was great. This thread is different though, because this is just (well I think it is) a really interesting discussion about the apocolypse. The thread that you made was an amazing argument where nearly everyone on this board ended up having their views or themselves insulted in some way. It was hilarious, hahahaha.

"nearly everyone on this board ended up having their views or themselves insulted in some way."

Good times!

retzam said:

The Mayans were brilliant astronomers and mathmaticians. For a long time, archealogists/anthropologists and Mayan schalors did not beleive that the Mayans were aware of the procession of the equinox. Now it is agreed that the mayans infact were well aware of the procession of the equinox and tracked it as well as many other astronomical occurances. It is a common theory now that the end date of the mayan calendar, the 13 baktun Great Cycle was intentionally choosen by the Mayan because of the conjuction of the sun with the intersection of the ecliptic and the plane of the Milky Way on Dec. 21, 2012, the 13.0.0.0.0 of the Long Count calendar. In Mayan lore, this moment of time at the winter solistice sunrise will actually be the true moment of creation of this world, an enlightenment. This same area of the milky way that the Mayan were fixated on is coincidentally where modern astronomers predict a black hole exists in or own galaxy. This area where this conjuction will occur is the center of the galaxy from our earth point of view. It is also the Mayan road to the underworld. On May 20 of 2012, the sun and pleidies are conjuct. The same day a solar eclipse will sweep across central and western N America. That means that the sun pleidies and the moon will be in alignment. In the 260 day tzolkin clendar, this day is 10 Chiccan, the serpent. According to Mayan lore, When the sun and pleiadies join forces in the heart of heaven, Quetzalcoatl will return and a new era will begin.

MArk your calendars.

Hhhmmm let's see. The world can end ANY MOMENT now. A comet can hit us RIGHT NOW! and "god" would have nothing to do with.

Humans consume EVERYTHING. It's natural. but we are intellingent (in general). TOO intellingent. but not very smart. we think about our selves and not about the next generation. But we still ahve a chance.
It's not over 'till it's over.

And the whole "god" and/or "gods" thimg, people need something to believe in cause they need hope, something to guide their lives, or explain where they came from.


of course this is rttp so: THIS IS JUST MY OPPINION!

number one: God doesn't exist. Yeah, maybe there is some supreme force somewhere out there....but don't you think the current and past situations that have caused millions their lives and families grief and pain a surefire sign that god is at least a super fuckin lazy dude if he is even in existence?


We cannot depend on some savior and some book that was written by crazed people thousands of years ago. We need to understand the fact that almost all things caused are because of simple human error, ignorance, and incompitence. Blame yourself, blame the people you elect to run your country, not the supposed "big guy"

War is going on because a group of politically inclined assholes thought the US reigned supreme as far as military and flat out technological weaponry goes. We can go in there and stop it all because we're smart and people will listen to us, right? WRONG. We don't belong in Iraq, or any other part of the world. We belong in the US, fixing our own god damn problems, because there are many. Inflation, the increasing unemployment rate, homeless people, medical care, and the like. People need to focus on stopping the war that has been raging in the US for the past four years. Help out your brother, let other countries fix themselves, and if they cant, sucks, but hey, oh fucking well. It should have never been our problem to begin with. If you can't see that this war is our fault and not god's way of saying "hey man, i wanna see a fight" then you are fucking blind.

number two: The weather is almost always shitty. It's either too hot or too cold...honestly, if you find a happy medium, let me know. Ill buy myself a pair of raybans and meet you half way.

number three: People are offing each other every day for reasons I covered earlier. One person saying "stop the violence" isnt gonna stop shit. People need to wake up, understand the wrong doings they and others have committed, come together, and do something constructive about it....but that will NEVER happen, because people look out for #1, and I dont blame them at all.


Watch out for yourself. Watch out for your friends, and don't bother getting worked up about things out of your control, because it's gonna take more than you bitching about it to stop it.

Whoah, dude, Word up!

Robotica_Brie said:


nice tits.

why wont the pic load?

it works for me. I want to cut off her hands.

this thread rules!!!

Carnivore - world wars III and IV

Silence and darkness the species of man is extinct
into the boiling oceans the continents, SINK!
gravity gone, the moon collides with the dead earth
flaming world out of orbit flying into deep space
pray for your death
cause if you survive
you'll die in pain
inworld war 5!!!
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