well guess what but, you all think we are slipknot because that is the only band you have seen to have the balls to have two drummers, some if not most see it as a joke or we have a bad drummer but if you listen you can hear this thing called talent. It is cool to dis us we have no problem but if you are gonna do it, at least say something original to say god we are local musicians just like most people with something to say, and when people like you think you can actually come in and drag us down you only fuel the fire. We start writting and making our full length soon so wait and listen and maybe by then your view will change, or not but we will see. and it doesn't matter what people like you say as long as we enjoy it and it means shit to us we will keep playing weather you like it or umm not. now I bet you will be like woah ... this guys are so bad, well if we are so bad how come people who dis us like nick from Shadar Logoth to our faces was like you guys are cool but behind our backs he says shit oh wait that is just him being 15 right no that is him showcasing that he wont last in this industry but we use all negitive shit and turn it into something that will leave it's mark! oh yeah thanks for comparing us to a kick ass band by the way.